http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Yeah, this plus a partnership with Verizon.
Although I always thought that webos is designed primarily for power users, with the whole managing cards thing that non-techy people find intimidating. But power users want speed and apps, which the current devices lack. Will the new version be as fast as the competition? We'll see.]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
Ok, went on a tangent there. The Pre's hardware is pretty weak and the screen small. The Pixie is nice but a budget device. Show off some killer hardware with some webOS changes. Or don't bother.]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
An immediately available webOS device with WVGA screen and 5mp camera will deter me from picking up the DROID in January.]]>Dec 15th 2009 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/I thought hardware-wise, 3GS and Pre were essentially equal]]>Dec 15th 2009 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/I would take the pre anyday than be a victim of how Apple has been treating its iPhone customers. And for the record the form factor is just right and the camera is great. not a heavy peice of marble in your pocket.]]>Dec 15th 2009 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 16th 2009 4:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/It's probably going to be webOS 1.5 or the like, hopefully with GPU, flash, and video recording support.

And fix the sync, Palm... dear Neptune, please fix the sync...]]>Dec 16th 2009 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Jan 3rd 2010 12:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Treo900W]]>Dec 15th 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
It already has a very snappy processor. What it needs badly is GPU hooks and native development. And get the damn market open to canada.]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
So true. Everybody seems to be dissing the Pre (including the Bell employees). My wife is fighting an uphill battle trying to convince her office to get her one. Instead they're trying to push the Bold or the iPhone on her instead! No disrespect to the iPhone (as I own a 2G and a 3Gs) but an iPhone!?!]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
I mean, of course there will be a flash memory bump, maybe a compass, maybe a better camera, and hopefully a larger battery.

But performance-wise, there isn't all that much they can do. Tegra is actually a slower CPU than the A8 in the Pre, and webOS doesn't support the GPU yet anyway, so that wouldn't make sense. Snapdragon is clocked higher than the Pre's OMAP3430, but it's still at its heart based on the Cortex A8 that the Pre is already using, so they won't change the chipset (and have to support a third entirely new configuration) just for that.

The only possibility is to use a newer revision of the OMAP3. The OMAP36xx series is a die shrunk version of their current chipset and supports higher clock speeds, so maybe we'll see that in a new Pre, though I'm not sure it was finished early enough for Palm to use in a new device yet.

In all likelihood, the only huge changes will be software-based. While I don't think native apps are the end-all, be-all that some think they are, they might have to do something with that to shut the naysayers up. I think maybe they'll probably continue to base things on the web design aspects, but my guess is that they'll probably use browser plugins to execute not quite native code, but closer to the metal code.

Regardless, GPU acceleration is a must. And we know Flash is coming. Video recording might be coming. And that's just the easily guessable software changes. Hopefully they've got some secrets locked away to put in webOS 2.0.]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/I agree. But isn't if funny how quickly the pre has gone from the new superhott device to an underpowered little powder puff in less than 6 months?]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/It's a damn powerful device, and it still did well.

Personally, a new, larger-screen device with webOS 1.5/2.0 would be awesome.]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Pre owner, eh?]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
Yep. Just got it last month. Switched from T-Mobile and picked it over the iPhone and the Droid. And I know a handful of other folks who have recently gotten the Pre also (and not because I told them too... well, most of them anyway). I think it is a great device. Give me a bit better battery life and a sturdier slider mechanism and it'd be just about perfect. ]]>Dec 15th 2009 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
I think it's part of the problem of the OS being written in web-based languages, basically the web doesn't integrate GPU acceleration yet, and so the path to the GPU just doesn't exist.

It's a shame really, if the Pre had the GPU integrated the UI could be as smooth as butter, and then I probably would have bought one, but the lag just kills it for me. Once Palm has this ironed out I'll be keeping a close watch on future WebOS devices.]]>Dec 15th 2009 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
The WebGL open standard was released today. It was written specifically to allow JavaScript calls to OpenGL from within the browser. Looks like basing WebOS development on JavaScript was prescient after all.]]>Dec 15th 2009 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
Excellent, well get cracking Palm!]]>Dec 16th 2009 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
iFacePalm. =D]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Ungh... why.....]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
Ach... Why not?]]>Dec 16th 2009 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
Rumours of Palm's death have been greatly exaggerated...]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
after years of hearing the drone of people waiting for Palm to die, I can't tell you how great it is to see a comment like this ranked so highly.]]>Dec 16th 2009 10:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/13/palm-pixi-clears-fcc-with-verizon-frequencies-and-wifi-in-tow/]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
Hoping for a new Palm device on Sprint in the coming months.]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
At this point, however, I think the only thing that can compete with Android is BB OS or iPhone OS.

Palm should jump on the bandwagon and make a proprietary overlay for an Android base (a la HTC), which would allow Android apps to run in the "cards" system. That on hardware that has the features and the performance of the DROID would be KILLER.]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/
It's funny you say "compete with Android"

If anything Android is competing with (and fighting an uphill battte) against iPhone OS, WinMo, and hell even Symbian from Nokia.

Aside from the interwebs and the geeks on websites like Engadget Android isn't that special and it's definitely no where near as popular or as widespread as any of the other OS's....

That being said though Android is definitely on the rise but the way you're phrasing it seems like it's already won which is as far from the truth as possible.]]>Dec 15th 2009 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats-new-at-ces-2010/Dec 15th 2009 4:22PM