http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/ Engadget Comments for NVIDIA promises Tegra 2 chipset and third party hardware at CES http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/The biggest power draw in a smartphone would not be these chipsets since they only consume power when used & a majority of them have a very good power management functionality built in. More power would be consumed by the Radio chipsets(GSM/CDMA/WiFi/Bluetooth). I have the ZuneHD & I can say very confidently that the power on that device lasts for a really solid amount of time especially if I am only listening to music.]]>Dec 16th 2009 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Tegra 1 can do like 10 hours of HD video playback man...

It's as power efficient as any of the TI or other ARM based chips out there.]]>Dec 16th 2009 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://bit.ly/tesla-and-tegra-what-are-they

A very nice howdy writeup from Anandtech CEO]]>Dec 16th 2009 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/
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just use http://i.engadget.com ]]>Dec 16th 2009 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/it's for the iPhone, but works well for other >=HVGA screened devices as well]]>Dec 16th 2009 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/dude, just use this instead;
http://userstyles.org/styles/22701]]>Dec 16th 2009 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Can't do, not a great idea to install scripts at work let alone use firefox, I'd rather not get repremanded for doing that. It's not that I am not allowed to, but we just try to keep things standard and using things outside of normal I.S. apps is not looked greatly upon, especially when you have in issue later on. This site works fine at home, so no need to do it there, where Firefox 3 is my browza of choice :) ]]>Dec 16th 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/you don't have to do any scripting yourself, just install stylish for firefox]]>Dec 16th 2009 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/I don't appreciate your insult, I work as part of a government IT staff and even I can't do modify it, I was just clarifying that you don't need any manual scripting in case you were interested in using on your own computer]]>Dec 17th 2009 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/
"and even I can't do modify it" ? Can't do modify ? Are government IT not able to use proper grammar as well? I clearly stated a few posts up I can't do this at work, and that at home it WORKS FINE (with Firefox), which means NO need for your script, THEN you turn around and say install stylish for Firefox? If you would have read my post I wouldn't have had to make a MILD joke, which you took way too seriously G Man. Sheesh, makes me embarrassed you have a hand in our countries IT infrastructure.]]>Dec 17th 2009 8:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/
holy crap so THATS how you can find the invisible submit button! why didnt i think of that??

(incase you didnt notice, im having very similar problems, ya digg]]>Dec 16th 2009 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Wow... major props for the invisible "submit" button find... i never thought of that either.

And I agree, the script error is horribly annoying...]]>Dec 16th 2009 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/
Agreed]]>Dec 16th 2009 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Nope...not in the USA...there were tons of failworthy netbooks that came out in japan and europe (mobinova, etc.) that really sucked and didn't deliver on their promises of being faster and more energy friendly than the ATOM anyways -- which is why no one else drank the tegra cool-aid. HTC had a handset called the SuperStar which was supposed to run the Tegra1 and it was supposed to come out in 2009...but it was abandoned, and they replaced it with Snapdragon, and it became the HD2. Tegra is failure, no matter that number you place after it. Nvidia, get a grip.]]>Dec 16th 2009 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/
I wonder if anyone has any articles on its performance or benchmarks of tegra relevant to Zune HD, or any other attempted projects? Is it really that bad, or just not implemented correctly?]]>Dec 16th 2009 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/
I will rather get me a smartphone with a Snapdragon 2, OMAP 4 or Marvell Armada chip than wait another year for Tegra.

Their marketing manager, Mike Rayfield promised smartphones, $99 MIDs and smartbooks in time for the holidays, well it is holiday time and no Tegra stuff except Zune HD and that is only in USA and it's a MP3 player. ;(
]]>Dec 16th 2009 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/My point exactly. OMAP3 was a HUGE success, almost every single device that runs it is very popular and extremely successful (n900, palm's new stuff, samsung i8910, list goes on..). OMAP4 will be even better with CorTex A9 core. Tegra is a complete failure.

The HTC superstar was supposed to run tegra and come out in fall of 2009, but never came. They abandoned the project due to false claims from Nvidia regarding competing chipsets last year at CES, and they opted to go with snapdragon instead -- and it became the HD2.]]>Dec 16th 2009 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/
As for battery life of Tegra, all I can go by is the Zune HD which looks like it offers better battery life than the iPod Touch, though the Zune HD's battery is very low capacity at 660 mAh compared to the iPod Touch's 789mAh (16% bigger). The Zune HD is very speedy too.

Do you have inside info from HTC about why they never used it, cause this is the first time anyone has claimed that they tested Tegra and decided that Nvidia was lying about its capabilities? It just seems that the HTC SuperStar never came out because it was supposed to run Winmo 7 and its launch has been delayed again.
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-1 for fictional product speculation and circumstantial heresay]]>Dec 16th 2009 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/man I hate how people on engadget, including some editors, use the terms netbook, atom, smartbook, tegra, ion like they are all compatible with each other

Ion is a chipset for x86 PCs, Tegra is an ARM-based system-on-chip for embedded systems, they can't be used with the same hardware, and they can't run the same software (without porting) so you can't really compare them

because x86 and ARM are colliding at that middle-ground mini laptop form factor (netbook for x86 coined by intel, and smartbook for ARM coined by Qualcomm) as well as the handheld arena (UMPC/MID for x86 by Microsoft/intel and PDA/Smartphone for ARM) I can see where the confusion comes in]]>Dec 16th 2009 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/in case someone catches me off guard, I wanted to clarify that PDA/Smartphone aren't necessarily for ARM only since historically they used to be more MIPS and other RISC systems]]>Dec 16th 2009 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/

]]>Dec 16th 2009 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Why would anyone run IE8...]]>Dec 16th 2009 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/The Tegra1 is ARM11 based...all those stats about it having days of battery life and being able to do HD playback longer than snapdragon and atom are false...that's why there were only 2 or 3 major Tegra1 devices in 2009..and about 20 major devices running the OMAP3...a much more powerful chipset based on A8 CorTex...Now in 2010 we have the OMAP4..which basically makes the Tegra1 look about 5 years obsolete...In all honestly, Tegra's time has come and gone. It was hyped soooo much, and at the time that the hype was going on, it could have actually been a decent competitor in the C.E. game -- but not anymore. Too late, NVIDIA. OMAP\ATOM\SNAPDRAGON won, you lost. Time to cut your losses. And Tegra2? When can we expect devices to hit shelves...2015? Maybe by then the OMAP6 will be out and putting you to shame once again. Oh, and where is that HTC SuperStar Handset that was supposed to come out in Q3\4 2009 that runs the Tegra1? Hmmm? Abandoned you say? Snapdragon is better you say? :P]]>Dec 16th 2009 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/
Tegra1's main problem was that it was hideously late. If it had gone up against the other ARM11 parts, it would have competed really nicely but, by the time it was ready, device makers had already picked much more powerful products such as OMAP3 and Snapdragon. As you say, those crazy battery life claims were pretty much complete gibberish.

The good news is that Tegra2 looks much _more_ than twice as fast and I've heard rumours that it's on schedule for the first half of 2010 to compete very nicely against OMAP4, Snapdragon 2 etc. Its PortalPlayer heritage should deliver some minor advantages in battery life against these other dual core chips too, but nothing major. That said, they're really reliant on TSMC sorting out their recent manufacturing problems. ]]>Dec 16th 2009 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/nvidia-promises-tegra-2-chipset-and-third-party-hardware-at-ces/Dec 16th 2009 4:08PM