http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/ Engadget Comments for ComScore: iPhone overtakes Windows Mobile use for the first time in US http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
I think that's the surprising part, if anything.]]>Dec 17th 2009 1:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
With all the love the iPhone gets around here youre right, it seems like it should have passed it long ago, but likewise (see next paragraph)

personally im shocked symbian has more than android, especially considering the only subsidized symbian phone in the US i can think of is that one that launched on att a while back (mako maybe?). Im suprised there are that many people buying unlocked phones in the US, thought i was alone]]>Dec 17th 2009 1:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 2:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 2:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/you dont know anything about phones if you think its surprising

you probably also thought android outsells windows mobile. idiot fanboys.]]>Dec 17th 2009 2:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 3:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Probably Android IS outselling WinMo the graphics shows "devices (and thus operating systems) currently in use" not current sales figures. ]]>Dec 17th 2009 4:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
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@wsh03370 hmm..i really question legitimacy of those numbers.
there is no way original PalmOS market share is so much larger than android, and there is no way android is so small.
in April tmobile reported that they sold 1 million G1's. after that they released mytouch3g and moto cliq. sprint released very popular htc hero and samsung moment. and let's not forger verizon's droid that sold 250k units the 1st week and droid eris.

the last non-webos device Palm released was Treo 500v which is WinMo 6.0 device...and i assume comscore counted it in WinMo section, not palm section?
The last true PalmOS device was Centro which was released in 2007. Since then nothing new.
I highly doubt that it has continued to sell so well that its market share remained steady and would be so much bigger than android's, considering recent(even before droid) significant marketing push of the android platform.

there is no way iphone is so small.
according to those numbers, from May to July iphone moved from 5,744,018 to 6,630,298. However, it is well known that the 1st week alone iphone 3gs sold 1.5million units.
at the time when iphone 3gs launched, total userbase in US was 26million units.

comscore pulled these numbers out of their ass]]>Dec 17th 2009 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/I believe the numbers. For all the hype those of us read on blogs the real world is much different. I know ALOT of people still using the same phones they bought in 2004. Others who recently bought used phones that were produced before 2006.

I think your impression that these numbers is off is very accurate when looking at recent sales of the last 12 months but the graphs I think are more accurate to what people are actually using right now, and most people don't rotate to the latest greatest phone every year.

For example when comparing all my co-workers (who being in the IT industry you think would be cutting edge) the number of iPhones users is far out weighed by non-iPhones. iPhone has the largest number of phones in our group but when others team up against it the BlackBerry's as a group are the largest, WM phones second, then Apple, Palm, and only one person has an Android (G1 at that).

By phones iPhones are most common, followed closely by RAZRs (crazy I know!), and then two people who have BlackBerry Storms, and two others have Palm Pre's. I have a WM phone but I don't think any two of us WM users have the same phone.]]>Dec 17th 2009 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Up is down and down is up and AT&T have never dropped a call and there's plenty of love for the iPhone on Engadget!

Seriously, what love? The writers pillory it (app store rejections, AT&T, no streaming, etc) most comments lambast it (say 'fart apps' six times quickly) and any comment foolish enough to support it in any way gets oblivionized.]]>Dec 17th 2009 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 1:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Well, as we say in Cyprus - "if my grandmother had balls, she would be my grandfather"

]]>Dec 17th 2009 2:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Yeah Apple with impressive geeky hardware and software..
Totally gonna happen...

Like the next high end graphic card on the next MacPro : it will be a 295GTX instead of the 120 they have now.. Sure sure...

Oh and I'm also guessing a shell access with a bash command invite as a widget on the home screen, along with a full featured file browser and the possibility to change safari for opera or fennec..

Oh and a 5MPx with dual led flash + a Xenon flash.

I could go on but I think I've made my point : iPhone will NEVER be customizable, or grant any more freedom to its users because the whole Apple business model relies on users control. It will never get geeky high ends features either because it's aimed at mainstream technology non-enthusiasts lambda users.
Stop dreaming about this, if you want a customizable user experience get a Maemo or Android smartphone, if you want professional apps get a Blackberry, if you want nice hardware get a SE or a Nokia.]]>Dec 17th 2009 3:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Ah, yeah, I'm well aware you mentioned some naff hw spec rage. Ooo get me more of them megapixels in the ant brain sized sensor and cheap ass glass.

iPhones are hardly the most feature dense bits of silicon but if you can't make a unix box do whatever you want then chucking a tantrum over your own lacking is dull.]]>Dec 17th 2009 7:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
You really suck at understanding Apple's target market. In fact you suck at understanding the simple fact that the vast VAST, VAST, VAST MAJORITY of consumers in the US are NOT INTERESTED in "geeky OS and hardware". They simply want something that WORKS.

Guess what? That's what the iPhone is.That's what it was designed for, and that's who it's targeting. The vast majority of all people in the US. And for the record, if you weren't a complete idiot you would know that the 120 isn't the only card for the Mac Pro. Heard of the GTX 285? Stop being ignorant.

The "geeky" crowd isn't even the tiniest of blips on this chart, because they're such a miniscule percentage of all people in the US. The fact that you think they represent some sort of meaningful fraction of the population is hilarious. The iPhone is pulling ahead now specifically because it does NOT cater to the "geeky crowd".

Why is this so hard to understand for you? ]]>Dec 17th 2009 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Is your user image paying homage to Deus Ex? I hope so.]]>Dec 17th 2009 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
It is]]>Dec 17th 2009 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
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Yeah, that's what you get when the Nokia E series is not subsidized by the US carriers...]]>Dec 17th 2009 4:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
The E71x is $50 from AT&T, or free if it's refurb. But how can Nokia compete with Apple's mindshare in America?]]>Dec 17th 2009 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Two subsidized phones in the same network as the iPhone.
Sure, it's because of the mindshare. Nokia should sell more phones subsidized.]]>Dec 17th 2009 9:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Nonetheless, this is impressive coming from a company with such few different models (I believe the iPhone offers 3). When a new iPhone cometh, RIM is in trouble. RIM has over 20 different models, in the US, and Apple isnt terribly far from catching up.]]>Dec 17th 2009 1:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 1:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 1:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Obviously I don't know that because I use my iPhone to write emails all the time. Have you tried it on an iPhone? Apple's auto-correct works really well, and I'm at least as fast on an iPhone as I am on a mobile device with a hard keyboard. Maybe even faster.

And a soft keyboard has a huge advantage in the context of different languages, kanji, Emoji (use that all the time too).]]>Dec 17th 2009 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 1:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
It'll be interesting to see what kind of improvement Google's base gets when phones released on Verizon and Sprint's network are factored into the equation. At the very least, the Droid's 250,000 first week sales is fairly encouraging to the growth of the platform.]]>Dec 17th 2009 1:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/I agree on the Android part.

About RIM I just don't get how they can go from 9,5 million users to more than 15 millions in like 9 months...
that's about +55% !! over 9 MONTHS ! it's crazy
More or less the same on the Apple front btw

I smell inaccurate data..]]>Dec 17th 2009 3:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Nah, I think it's that RIM has been selling more "consumer-oriented" phones like the Tour and Storm, plus 3G upgrades.

It's important to realize that this graph only shows sales, not active accounts. So if someone were to replace one Blackberry with another, it would show up here. There's no way of tracking "active" users of a phone, and I doubt it really matters. A sale is a sale.]]>Dec 17th 2009 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
I agree, i'm surprised that palm has more marketshare than android. ]]>Dec 17th 2009 2:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
That Palm's webOS Pre didn't come out until June has to mean that those values for February and May, at least, are from the ancient Palm OS/Garnet. This chart, then, doesn't show how many webOS phones are out there.]]>Dec 17th 2009 3:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Yep. You're right. I wonder what the numbers are for strictly webOS devices? Anyone?]]>Dec 17th 2009 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Actually, this chart doesn't reflect webOS at all.

From the original source, FierceDeveloper's site:
"These numbers are the most recent available from comScore, and represent the market situation after the introduction of the Palm Pre and the iPhone 3GS. However, the Pre's webOS operating system is not listed because the device does not yet have a large enough installed base to accurately be counted by comScore's survey."
- http://www.fiercedeveloper.com/pages/what-were-top-smartphone-operating-systems-october

I don't know why Engadget failed to mention this, but it's rather important as far as Palm is concerned.]]>Dec 18th 2009 2:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 1:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Basically, yeah. Do you disagree?]]>Dec 17th 2009 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Yes, I do.]]>Dec 17th 2009 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuyDsNsK7sk
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but it doesn't do anything besides email.]]>Dec 17th 2009 2:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 6:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 17th 2009 1:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/
Apple needs to work hard to beat RIM at their own game - enterprise customers.

I really like the iPhone OS, but the proprietariness of the OS bugs me, I hope Android grows up to be as solid as it. ]]>Dec 17th 2009 1:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/"I really like the iPhone OS, but the proprietariness of the OS bugs me"

If that's the case, then I suppose you must revile with the most proprietary smart phone of them all, WinMo.]]>Dec 17th 2009 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/comscore-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-use-for-the-first-time/Dec 22nd 2009 7:19AM