http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/ Engadget Comments for Nokia to have private Connecting People event alongside Mobile World Congress http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Dec 21st 2009 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Dec 21st 2009 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Dec 21st 2009 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
YES NEED to power up the phone. I mean the 5800 has a 300ish MHz processor.... :S What I like about Nokia is the video and music playback quality. I have not seen any phone offer the same expect the iDoesn't ... :S]]>Dec 21st 2009 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/I don't so much have an issue with the OS, ya, compared to other newer systems it needs a little streamlining, but it's still ok with me.
I consider the thoughts on operating systems as opinions, not facts.

Now on hardware, it's a fact they need to do some work.
The N97 with a better processor and more ram would of been a great phone, and may of saved symbian's reputation.]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
I have 3 devices with me: a iPhone 3GS, N900 and a e61i...

Yes, the e61i is soooo slow that makes me want to rip my own arm and beat my self with it. But the newer E-series are amazingly fast. You should try it again.]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
N97 should be out with 500+ MHz TI OMAP 3430 core, then it'd really rock. Also, if 3430-ed N97 could be upgradeable to Symbian^3 when it comes out, Nokia could be owning gigantic market at the moment.

So, releasing N97 with a 434 MHz Freescale core was Nokia's absolutely one of the lamest moves done in last couple of years.]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Dec 21st 2009 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
I agree I would buy a N97 or N97 mini, but not if it runs at the same speed as my old N95

I believe Nokia can make great hardware, but recent decisions are bad moves for them, and I'm starting to worry]]>Dec 21st 2009 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
5800 has ARM11 @ 434 Mhz after firmware V20 [3]]]>Dec 22nd 2009 12:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Dec 21st 2009 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
It is the usual engadget bashing of Nokia..

But this time they even lied to you. Dont trust much what appears in this blog. The person that wrote this post could have double quoted to give a better understanding for its readers but who cares right? Engadget is here not to inform you... :)]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/I'M THERE DUDE! I've never had Finnish privates before.

Seriously though, enough with the crappy phones.
Nokia had ONE good handset in 2009 -- the N900.
That's IT...ONE!!! The rest were all garbage low spec'd crapgadgets with uberlame software \ OS \ features.]]>Dec 21st 2009 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Perhaps, you should realize that not everyone is like you. For some people a phone that just makes calls and sends text messages is way more than they ever thought in having.

And a lot of people in poor nations, such Indonesia, want a phone but can not pay very much for it. And they still want a good phone, that makes calls... you know? iPhone isnt even that reliable with all of that bling.

So let's stop generalizing the WORLD cos I am pretty sure I can generalize a bunch of stuff where you come from as well... And it wont look pretty.]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Sorry I didn't take into account starvin marvin from micronesia's phone preferences. All jokes aside, what does your comment have to do with anything?

The main "trend" right now in the phone industry is smartphones. They are becoming more popular every day, and Nokia's failure to recognize that is the cause of their stores closing and their profits going down. Nokia's success or failure has nothing to do at all with "poor nations" -- like you said I'm sure they could care less what phone they get as long as it makes calls and sends texts.

In fact if that were the case then I'm sure Nokia would be opening new stores, not closing them.]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
You do realise that Nokia sold more smartphones than RIM and Apple combined over the year, right?
]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/That's great!
What about the future though?
"Nokia failed to lead a changed market and has been forced into reacting to competitors instead of driving its own vision of the future."
From the Engadget\Entelligence article.]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
Dunno. If you mean the US market where they have no presence it's looking pretty grim. If you mean the rest of the world where they've held steady or increased share it's looking pretty good.


For example, Nokia's increase in smartphone sales in Q2 2009 was greater than total iPhone sales outside the US. Blogs like Engadget tend not to look at the financials and the non-US markets.]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
That's Symbian's success, in fact. Symbian's microkernel is able to respond each request so quick that Symbian can run on less powerful cores (when compared to others) fast enough to serve as a smartphone.

Nokia emphasized on durability and standby time in 2009, so as long as Symbian allowed they didn't upgrade their weak but decent, power saving ARM11 core. 2010 should be their upgrade time for both hardware and software, otherwise Nokia will fail irreversibly.]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
I agree. The 434MHz ARM 11 just won't cut it for touchscreens these days. It doesn't have to be that much more powerful, just enough to make it a bit more fluid. Non-touchscreens are OK with it though.]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Touchscreen devices need at least Arm CorTex A8 or preferably A9 since it's 2010 in a bit. Arm11 will not cut it anymore, especially since smartphones are becoming platforms for HD media and flash content.]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Dec 21st 2009 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
Damn, beat me to it!

In absolute agreement though. =)]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
Put's me off their UI too to be honest...]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
I've just dropped my Vodafone contract to a £20, 30 day contract without a phone upgrade because there's nothing they have that appeals to me - the iPhone 3GS will be outdated five months after it comes out on Voda, the N900 feels too much like a prototype, I don't text enough to justify a Bold or an E72 and the X6 is simply a tarted up 5800.

What's a man to do?]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Dec 21st 2009 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/I'll be waiting to see what Nokia will bring in 2010 before considering any new phones, as they said they're going to revamp S60 UI, not that I don't like the way it is now, I want something new to play with! And from what I saw it'll be an exciting update. Looking forward to it!

And I totally agree with you on the X6, I REALLY like it but I can't justify paying for a new phone that pretty much duplicates what my now-old 5800 does, It's just sexier btw! :)]]>Dec 22nd 2009 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
Misión cumplida, Nokia: has conseguido atraer nuestra curiosidad.

Mission accomplished, Nokia: you have managed to attract our curiosity.

Now, while I like to think of myself as a geek, would someone kindly point me to a super dumbed down version of safely porting 2.1 to my Sprint Hero?]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
Nokia will eventually be undercut in dumb phones, if they haven't been already, by the Asian manufacturers like LG and Samsung.

The real innovation,glitz and **growth** lies with smartphones, specifically Android OS phones, RIM Blackberries and iPhones (originally a glorified feature phone, but with the app store, yep, now it's a smart phone).]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/
FFS will you do some research?

Nokia's smartphone share is S60 based, not S40 and, as mentioned, still kicks the shit out of everyone else. The suggestion that the future lies with Android, Apple and RIM is nice but utterly unfounded.

Nokia has work to do but anyone who thinks that Symbian^2 to^4 and Maemo won't at least hold if not recapture share over the next few years is insane because the numbers just don't run any other way - don't compare increased market share due to the expansion of the US smartphone market to what happens outwith the US.

]]>Dec 21st 2009 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/How could you clone and steal Apple technologies?
What a shame.
bless the iPhone.]]>Dec 21st 2009 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/How to join there?]]>Dec 21st 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Dec 21st 2009 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Dec 21st 2009 6:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-to-have-private-connecting-people-event-alongside-mobile-w/Dec 21st 2009 7:16PM