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Things I'd like to see but likely won't EVER see:
- Ability to burn purchased movies/tv shows to DVDs (more so series')
- Monthly subscription to unlimited movie views ($10 p/m maybe)
- Slightly higher quality music & $7.99 as base price for standard albums (non-deluxe editions) older than a year.

I've got no problem supporting these artists, film companies, & studios w/ 10% of my unemployment check every week. All you gotta do is give me a darn good reason to.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 5:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
be happy any of them might be willing to do this subscription thing. if they can convince enough folks it would be awesome. I could see them doing it with files similar to the rentals. after you watch it, it goes puff. but you can download them over and over if you like. it would well for me. and if they were to release a smallish, flat portable device that could play those 720 versions it would work even better]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Let me guess, the subscription still includes ads, you'll have to wait a week for new content after airing, and you'll need to create a Hulu account. $30....right

Get me live tv that will cripple Comcast or gtfo apple]]>Dec 22nd 2009 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
http://www.jinni.com]]>Dec 22nd 2009 5:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
Let's keep it real here. The music business got pwned by Steve Jobs, the Movie studios are already on board, and the now TV studios are shitting their pants.

Expect a fight against this. But not for business reasons. They're dreading Apple taking over their businesses.

The truth is, as bad as the music business is now, it would be even worse if Apple didn't help the world make the switch to digital the right way. ]]>Dec 22nd 2009 5:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 5:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 5:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
Otherwise... you'll have some of your favorite TV shows on the AppleTV... then the other corporate networks will team up and make their own box, etc.

I guess we do have that one box right now... it's a cable subscription and a DVR... ]]>Dec 22nd 2009 5:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 6:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Well, yea, when the iTunes store launched, Apple showed the world how to do it. And so the rest of the world has been trying to take that formula and apply it other industries.

But like I said... the reason NBC is trying to do their own service, etc is because they're petrified that Apple is gonna just take it all over.

The reason they won't is because... TV is still a pretty good deal. There's no urge to have portable shows, like portable music, so its not a killer market. It's still a sit down and watch something market. That's why the AppleTV came out. (A product that, lets be honest, Apple doesn't spend a dime to promote, but when the biggest Apple hater alive, Paul Thurrott, uses and loves your product, you know its gotta be pretty cool)
]]>Dec 22nd 2009 6:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
What I'd really like to see is something very unique. Steve Jobs should use his position within Disney and Apple to force ABC to let Apple TV stream ESPN's family of channels live on the device. That would be a HUGE coup to the current infrastructure.

And finally, the TV studios shouldn't fear this, because they're going to be making their money somehow or another. The ones who should be VERY worried about this are the cable television providers, Comcast et al. If this ever takes off, they stand to lose a gigantic portion of their monthly revenue...couldn't happen to a better company, in my opinion.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 6:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
"If this is $30 a month PER "channel" (i.e. $30 for Disney, $30 for ABC, $30 for CBS, etc) then it will fail spectacularly."

You just made that up, accused Apple of doing it, then called it a stupid idea. Maybe streaming TV shows isn't your biggest problem right now.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 6:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 6:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 6:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/lol limewire]]>Dec 22nd 2009 7:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 7:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/That actually sounds like a great idea, and would definitely boost the popularity of the Mini. Won't ever happen though]]>Dec 22nd 2009 7:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.123macmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25412]]>Dec 22nd 2009 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
Sorry to hear your sentiments on that, but the Mac Mini is very much great for a HTPC.

Combined with it's size, it's IR sensor and remote, bluetooth keyboard and mouse, along with software such as Front Row and Plex. The Mac Mini is one of the best HTPC solutions out there.

This is where you complain that it doesn't have audio outputs (Red/White) or it lacks HDMI, but it does have Mini Displayport, which can be converted to DVI. It also has optical audio out, which some would say is the best.

Hence the reason why I would like to see a Mac Mini and Apple TV merged. Give the Mac Mini the additional features it needs to be a full on HTPC.

They work great now as HTPC, but with modifications to it's IO, it could be the best HTPC out there.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
The Mac Mini does not have appropriate HTPC outputs nor inputs including a lack of BluRay capability, while costing $1,078.17 shipped with the lowest available processor (going even higher on the processor is wasteful for this application).

The competitor was $388.82 shipped with proper inputs such as BluRay, SDHC, and eSATA and outputs such as a dedicated HDMI + 7 channel audio ATI video card, front audio/mic, with a processor that is more frugal on power and lower heat while still being fast enough for BluRay or high definition flash even without the 10.1 update (approximately double the performance of a Intel Atom), running W7 which offers the purpose-built Media Center interface and remotes that works with extenders in other areas of the house.

Its clearly a more purpose built HTPC box in a very similar form factor.

The Mac Mini can make for a good micro-desktop, but is a VERY poor choice as a HTPC.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 5:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
Technically an AppleTV box has everything in it to compete with cable/content providers out there.

So how does this delay of making full use of this device fit in the grand master plan of Apple? Why didn't they take a lead on the competition when they introduced the AppleTV by starting partnerships with content providers like what seems to happen now?
Do we really have to believe that all this time no one was interested in brining their direct and live programming to the AppleTV and iTunes?]]>Dec 22nd 2009 7:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
because that doesn't leverage any of Apple's core competencies and it sure doesn't leverage the huge ecosystem of devices and accessories they sell, and the millions upon millions of computers with iTunes installed.

The one thing you just can't do on iTunes is sports. News, you can get on the Internet, but you can't get live feeds of sports. And if you're watching a sports game that isn't live, its like wearing a used condom... or sth..:S]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
People are forgetting is the fact these cable companies own the pipes to your homes (unless your home is fitted with fiber optic then youre fine) and will start capping your bandwidth if something like this (taking cable subscriptions away) happens. My business is with Time Warner and i do believe if current subscribers are headed to online (Apple TV) content and not TWC, they will resort to metered bandwidth. Its a little early to speculate what they'll be offering but if Apple TV is able to stream live Sports in HD for a minimal monthly price then im game. ]]>Dec 22nd 2009 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
Apple "inspired" MS Windows. Way to give your life meaning.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/What does windows have to do with anything?]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/You give people who dislike Apple a really, really bad name.
They make some good products. They all have their faults, but good luck never using an iPhone/iPod/mac etc. in your lifetime.
And when we are all watching tv on Apple TV's or whatever else comes along after, have fun with your black and white 12".....]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
And judging from the way Droid is being promoted and the rise of other smartphones, I wouldn't be surprised if there are people who will never own an iPhone. ]]>Dec 22nd 2009 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
We don't need networks on the net, we need all the cable channels. If you just made ESPN available on the net somehow, I wouldn't even need my Dish Network anymore. Everything else I can already get on the net.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
Have you tried espn360.com? I watched a college football game and it worked great.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
If i can get ESPN HD on apple TV along with a few other basic (ABC HD, Fox HD) im all for it. ]]>Dec 22nd 2009 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
Hulu and Netflix have a meager selection of content and although I appreciate their subscription-based business model vs. Apple's a la carte pricing, the iTunes store has both a wider variety and includes the ability to take your content with you on a portable device where you may not have fast internet connection (like when we flew to the grandparent's house this Christmas).

Amazon VOD has a nearly identical selection of content as the iTunes store, but lacks good portable device support and their support for TVs isn't as impressive as the Apple TV.

In short, I think you're wrong. Apple has a lot to work out with content distributors, but they're arguably still in the lead or at least not "way behind".]]>Dec 22nd 2009 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
There is a reason you can get a good laptop from everyone but Apple for under $500, a good mp3 phone with Browser for under $100 on plan that costs less than $100 for TWO LINES with unlimited everything, etc from everyone but Apple. You can buy Amazon VOD credits for cent on the dollar...they house your content and you can download it. Not sure what you mean by them not supporting certain TV's - the service comes with a Roku, or an $80 blu-ray player - or an HTPC - no need for specific TV.

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Theres nothing wrong with wishful thinking ;)]]>Dec 22nd 2009 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
I can even download all the shows I want to watch for free on their websites when I do get on-line.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
I have a local network setup between my MacBook and the Linux DVR. I don't see how Apple will be able to compete with the free system I have now. Maybe there are millions of people that aren't like me, but I think they may have problems with a monthly fee.

Actually, I want to watch less TV next year, and am working on ways to reduce the number of hours I spend in front of a TV.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/
Thanks for playing. Johnny, tell 'em what they won.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/disney-and-cbs-interested-in-apples-subscription-based-itunes/Dec 22nd 2009 11:09AM