http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
Hopefully it won't feel too hot.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
I have a dell mini 9 and wish I could play world of warcraft on it, likewise I sprung for an N900 and I know as soon as Tegra2 android phones start coming out I'll be wishing I waited for that.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
well, if you would have waited for tegra 2, you'd be in the upcoming tegra 3 post saying that you'd wish'd you would've waited for that one... :P]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Sweet!!]]>Dec 22nd 2009 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
Your pic goes disturbingly well with that comment]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
Please give me a nice Core 2 Duo CULV with Ion 2 in a nice 11" package. That's it, plain and simple. I would have liked something similar 6 months ago with the original Ion, but apparently you guys don't know what people want

Signed,
Engadget Users]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/agreed totally; it's almost like the notebook makers have stock invested in endgadget and make more money from the ad revenue while i check engadget daily for this fantasy device]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
Understand--the Ion-based CULV laptop you want will (a) have worse battery life than the one without the Ion, and (b) will be more expensive than the one without the Ion. If you aren't prepared for this little dose of reality, then stop commenting on Engadget please. CULV netbooks have fabulous battery life so you can lose a little without killing yourself, and they CAN be quite inexpensive ($399 for the Acer AS1410 say), so I think you can handle the extra cost (say $20x2.5=$50?).

That said, I personally like the CULV laptops that are out already, in fact I just bought one, and wouldn't want one with an Ion that made the battery life worse and made it more expensive. Its a 2nd laptop, and I can barely justify it as it is. And I don't play ANY games to speak of, so I could care less about Ion. Accept that other people are different than you.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
The CULV notebooks out now are fine. If Acer sold an Ion 2 based Timeline, I'd be all over it. They're already advertising 8 hours for the ones packing Intel GMA. I'd pay the premium for Ion, and take the hit on battery life. It'd basically be a Macbook Air for half the price. Who wouldn't want that?]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
Well actually, people asked for ion & atom cheap to be exact - thus pops up the HP mini 311. I've been tracking these the last few weeks on newegg & amazon, since I know several people who have been trying to get them for Christmas presents. I've seen both sell out on both websites, especially @ that $400 entry price tag.

So you're basically just wrong about sales not happening.

Also, about a month back engadget showed an asus laptop around 12" with a CULV & the g105 (whatever its called) nvidia graphics chip. for under 1k. I think that's what people will fly to.

So yea, you're just wrong]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 23rd 2009 2:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Then just get a notebook. Seriously.

The netbook craze that exists on this website, and nowhere else in the real world is so gay. Look at this.. you want an 11" netbook. My lappy is 13", just a little bigger, so just get a real laptop already!

Everything you wanna do with a main computer + netbook i do better with my laptop and ipod touch. Fact.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
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Just watch.

His revelation on how PC users make up problems for the Apple products they bought to feel better about themselves is like watching Jersey Shore, and actually liking the characters. ]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
I'm still happy netbooks are evolving cause I want them to be better than laptops.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 29th 2009 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Same here, now I'm not sure about the new Asus 1201N...]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 11:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Personally, I think AMD/ATI are well positioned to take a lead in the "performance" netbook/umpc market if they actually get round to competing with Atom before it becomes so ubiquitous that people simple wont buy anything else.
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ARM isn't going anywhere. Consumers want Windows not linux. This game has already been tried and tested; Linux netbooks have a much higher return rate than Windows computers. Windows can't run on ARM, only Linux (including Android) can, nobody wants that on their computer where there is ZERO software. People want minature fully functional computers not just browsing devices; and that includes Windows.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
And yes you'd think AMD still has a shot here, but where are they? They should be making money off the CULV segment at the very least.and I don't think they're competitive since their battery life isn't as good. They need to get their act together. Fewer and fewer people are going to need high end GPUs or high end CPUs and they need to be competitive in this space...]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
This was sad bacause they had intels new atom sticker on it >.>]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/You are right as all the windows edges are rendered by the gpu on windows 7 and on xp they are rendered by the cpu.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/ ]]>Dec 23rd 2009 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 10:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
As much as I'd like Ion 2, I'm picking up the 1201N. ]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
Also, Ion 2 will likely have to hook up via PCIe. I don't even know if the GPU inside Pineview can be disabled (e.g. stop using power). So Pineview's GPU performance will likely be WORSE than Diamondville, and on top of that the battery life might not be any better. Just buy what's out there now if it meets your needs.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
My dream netbook for under 5 bills: Core 2 Quad Extreme 4 Ghz, 8Gb ram, 2 gb video card. I said dream netbook, so don't hate too hard.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/
Oh come on now, lets be realistic....]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/nvidia-ion-2-coming-in-early-2010-compatible-with-pine-trail/Dec 22nd 2009 10:40PM