http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
here is the link to the full image: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/T7f_nHeo7pY1Yg4UaNumIg?feat=directlink

enjoy :)]]>Dec 22nd 2009 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
Why G1 let's compare it with Hero
Hero != Omnia II 480 x 800 pixels, 3.7 inches
Hero 528Mhz != Omnia II 800Mhz
Hero OpenGL 1.0 != Omnia II OpenGL 2.0
Hero 5MP No Flash != Omnia II 5MP With Flash
Hero VGA Recoring at 15fps != Omnia II 720x480@30fps
Hero MP4/H.263/H.264/WMV9 != Omnia II DivX/XviD/MP4/H.263/H.264/WMV
Hero Android (free) != Omnia II WM (NoN Free)
After Sales Support Very Very Poor != Omnia II Very Poor

Hero Price 690$ != Omnia Price 560$

Sorry I compared it and found that htc has fooled me and every around.

Many of you don't know internals of hardware friends and how it effect you and developers friends if you know you will never buy a HTC phone.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 5:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Umm....i thought D day was in june, at least thats day i always remembered, on the 6th day of the 6th month (and 6 days before my bday makes it even easier to remember)]]>Dec 23rd 2009 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://bit.ly/samsung-omnia-point-of-view]]>Dec 29th 2009 5:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Simple,*]]>Dec 22nd 2009 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/only way i'd either get this or the the omnia pro, would be if i could kick touch wiz outta the house and load sense 2.1 from modaco. samsung and their interfaces are a horrible joke. that 3.7" amoled and that 800mhz processor would be welcome additions to sense 2.1. ]]>Dec 23rd 2009 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
As for the phone, once you dump Touchwiz and get a real shell on there (SPB Mobile Shell 3.5), it works extremely well. No major complaints with my Omnia II (I'm on Bell).]]>Dec 22nd 2009 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
I like the interface and I could deal with the lack of physical keyboard but the phone is slow for the most part :(

Waiting for the OMNIA 3]]>Dec 22nd 2009 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
It beggars belief sometimes...it's almost as if no one bothered to use the phone once it had been made, they just programmed it, built it and shipped it... ]]>Dec 22nd 2009 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
To each their own. You don't like WinMo. Big fucking deal.
]]>Dec 22nd 2009 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/PS did anyone else know Verizon has their own version of shazam ??? I was amazed and surprisingly it was the only Verizon app that did not say it costs money…
]]>Dec 22nd 2009 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
Wow, you are getting slow. This article was posted 22 minutes ago and you're just barely replying. Don't bother replying if you're going to take this long.
]]>Dec 22nd 2009 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
I disabled touchwiz and I use the standard WM 6.5 titanium UI with some customized panels. It's great. Very minimalist in some aspects, but the weather panel and the ccom, cgps, clinks, and clauncher panels are simply amazing.

I won't get into this anymore, but for newbs expecting to get a quick phone out of the box, don't buy this. This device is for serious WM power users only. ]]>Dec 22nd 2009 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Great insight, douche!
Despite what you may think, there IS a decent market niche for power users...and I wouldn't say it's in the thousands either....XDA-Developers has over 2 MILLION members on their forums, and MoDaCo has almost 600,000.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/There's already custom roms for the GSM version of this device -- there will be ones for the CDMA one as well. Check on MoDaCo or PPCGeeks.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 7:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
TouchFlo has also been ported, but isn't quite up to speed yet on the latest version. There is an older version that works good and is just as quick as HTCs, but I still prefer titanium.

It's just great to have a phone with good hardware under the hood that doesn't require you to have "root" just to enable the full functionality. Fuck android and it's fake openness, and fuck iphone. Those may be good for average joe's, but WM is the best for power users who want to get the most out of their handsets, and the Omnia 2 is a great addition to the WM family.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
I'll have to disagree, functionality is the most important, than how cool you can mod your stuff. What's the point of removing half the features in a supposedly powerhouse phone. I have android and my buddy has omina II, we constantly compare our phones over and over again, he constantly loses and he was so excited to teeker with fully teekable phone. Sadly, he is just too prideful to admit, that WinMo 6.5 with Samsung was another broken promise. Key word "broken". he has done the fixes, and still complains how laggy it is. All I can do is pat him on the shoulder, when his gps fails to work, and my works 99.9% of the time. Or that 800 MHz processor takes what seems like a decade to load a program or web page. Don't hate on the droid, it's all preference really. I rather have a phone I can root by option, still run optimally and have a bit of freedom. Than have a phone right out the box I got to make a million changes to, just for it to function smoothly. Though I will agree, All smart phones have a lot updating firmwire/logistics to manage, especially when they first come out, but I don't think you can do much with Omina now.]]>Dec 24th 2009 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Your buddy must not be doing something right. What ROM is he running? But anyways, you're comparing a CorTex a8 CPU to an Arm11 CPU...either way --
The droid is a waste of power. The CPU it uses (Omap3430) is capable of HDMI output and 720p video encoding and decoding. All of those features were purposely disabled by motorola...they crippled it basically. But the worst thing about android is the software crippling...so many limitations, it's unbelievable. And nothing about WM is broken, you're missing the point...it's about preference really.
Oh, and if you want to see what samsung did with the same CPU the droid uses, check out the OmniaHD -- 720p output via DLNA, captures 720p video, AMOLED screen, 8gb internal storage (Droid has like NO internal storage), and out of the box has Xvid, x264, h264, and divx hardware video acceleration (same with the omnia 2).

Download an xvid from the internet and compare playing it back on the droid and on the omnia 2 (with whatever rom) -- OH WAIT, droid can't play xvid, you'd have to transcode the media to mp4 container and h264 codec. Looks like droid doesn't.]]>Dec 24th 2009 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Oh yeah, also one more thing, android as a media platform is laughable. The OS is so immature that there is no way for 3rd party programs to access a hardware codec accelerator....so that means no xvid support, no mkv support, and no HD video at all basically even with the built in player. Only videos droid will play is h.264 codec with .mp4 container, not any of the 1000 of xvids and mkvs I have, all because google doesn't want people to have access to the hardware decoder. Droid definitely does NOT when it comes to media. Oh like I said Omnia 2 and pretty much all of samsungs phones come with a plethora of hardware accelerated codec support out of the box, and they provide API on their innovator site for 3rd party developers who want to add more codec support.]]>Dec 24th 2009 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Samsung should give up on doing their own interface.. dismal failure]]>Dec 22nd 2009 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
Judging by the unlock procedure, it sounds like you've still got 6.1.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/The Verizon phone ships with WM 6.5.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
Case in point - my LG Incite. Running a custom WM6.5.1 ROM (courtesy of Dark Wolf), I've got about 15-20 minor registry custom settings that cure most of the evils associated with WinMo. Every one of these should have been preset by LG. The only remaining problem is the LG accelerometer driver, which simply refuses to operate for extended periods without locking up the display. Again, NOT a Microsoft problem.

As Android becomes more pervasive and more customized, we're starting to see more grumblings about it's performance issues. Even Apple (which maintains absolute dominion over the hardware, OS, and software) has had major problems arise within their envirosphere.

Much of the grumbling aimed at WinMo phones is justified, but let's aim the complaints where they belong - at the phone manufacturers who don't optimize the OS to the hardware. ]]>Dec 22nd 2009 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
Do you have android running phone? I don't think you say that if you did.

I have a droid, and I've have duke it out with the processor, it runs beautiful even under stacked up ram. I haven't seen any reverse growth in functionality or smoothness since customizing and running under android.

I think motorala and google did what was expected and made sure their hardware coincided happily with it's software running on it.

It's very hard to hurt the android OS I've notice.

I think android did what the Iphone did with they're OS,with the exception of locking it open on the go. You can easily change these default settings to push it to it's limit (or root it). The best of both worlds IMO, is better than just one I believe.

I don't argue algorithm's with Mircosoft and google, they are kind of different entities. ]]>Dec 24th 2009 12:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
Perhaps some of the blame should be leveled at reviewers and users who don't bother to learn how to use their devices properly.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Samsung FAIL.
http://neilnuttall.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/disappointed-samsung/]]>Dec 22nd 2009 8:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
Then I disabled Titanium, and downloaded/installed SPB Mobileshell 3.5 and tried it. Again, smooth as a baby's bottom. No lag, no hesitation.

With the right registry tweaks and custom apps, this phone will be a beast. It just takes a little work. I enjoy tinkering like that, so this phone is right for me.

I'd go android, but there's no SlingPlayer mobile for android. And it'll be a year or more AFTER sling announces it's coming before it arrives in beta. Lack of SPM is a dealbreaker for me.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Ah, A fellow slingbox user....I feel pity for you :)
Also one of the reasons why I didn't get the droid or wait for the Bravo\NexusOne\Whatever the fuck they're calling it this week -- lack of slingplayer support. I, and others have flamed them so hard on their support forums, but they don't seem to care. SlingMedia has completely their mobile software the past year and a half; even the WM version and it's obsolete interface. On large screen \ resolution WM phones like the TG01 and the HD2 it's almost impossible to use the tiny buttons on the control panel at the bottom of the screen.
The only reason this old ass WM version still runs on newer 6.1 and 6.5 handsets is because Windows Mobile was designed from the ground up to have programs be compatible across handset vendors and different versions...but as for other platforms like Symbian, you are S.O.L. if you want a slingplayer support for any symbian touch-screen phone released in the past year and a half...and for Android and WebOS -- sorry, no support whatsoever. Even on the shitty ass iPhone, the slingplayer app only works over wifi (what a joke). Someone needs to get rid of the monkies that run that company and take them back to the zoo where they belong.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/ Settings > Today > "Windows Default").

Along with hard-resetting and then soft-resetting right before OEM Customizations start, you'll end up with a fairly bloat free WinMo handset.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/
And yes the Omnia II is extremely slow and sluggish. I tried it as well and I was not impressed.]]>Dec 22nd 2009 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 10:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/verizon-samsung-omnia-ii-impressions/Dec 22nd 2009 11:33PM