http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/ Engadget Comments for Panasonic and new best friend Sanyo plan one week storage battery for the home http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9581/desktophyk.jpg]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
That means that render is actually the size of train engine?]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
Better batteries are the answer and this is a good sign in this field.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8n2Qgguto]]>Dec 23rd 2009 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
Current exchange rate is 1 week's Japanese power consumption = 42 seconds American.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
Depends on how you look at the US data.

New England: 649 (kWh / mo)
Middle Atlantic: 722
East North Central: 830
West North Central: 970
South Atlantic: 1,156
East South Central: 1,290
West South Central: 1,149
Mountain: 908
Pacific Contiguous: 699
Pacific Noncontiguous: 659
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Japan: (495 kWh / mo)]]>Dec 23rd 2009 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
495 KWh/mth, 115.5 KWh/week. Compare to laptop batteries, which can cost $150 for 60Wh. This battery would cost roughly $289K, more than a quarter million dollars! The cost of these things will need to drop by at least a factor of ten to become worthwhile, and the price of lithium ion batteries hasn't changed much in half a decade...]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
I guess those stuck-up pricks don't care if, for example, someone had life support equipment they rely upon and if the power cuts they NEED reliable power to depend on their life.

I say fuck 'em - they can't tell if I have a backup generator hidden somewhere in basement or garage piped out to the exterior, can't they?]]>Dec 23rd 2009 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
It's a big condo complex. The units are tightly packed and thus they have noise restrictions so no one can have one, pretty common actually. He does have a small Honda generator which is pretty quiet but his neighbors have complained just for using that. More than likely they were just jealous and felt stupid that they did not think of it.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/That is actually illegal depending on the state]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
The battery appears pretty small and I doubt it'd be much of an inconvenience to put many of these in some small corner.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Someone stop them already :o
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That provides enough energy to run a 1000 watt load for ~ 24 hours.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
"The plan is to release the lithium-ion cell in 2011, with enough juice in it to power a home for a week"
If this could be sized down to what appears to be in the picture it would be a technological development on par with cold fusion.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
My home uses 250 kWh per month on average (over the past 2 years) It is a little more in the winter, and less in the summer.

That is still quite a bit of power, but if I could add someway to generate electricity, this could work.

What we need are cheap batteries (or power storage units) that last 50 years. They need to be able to be recharged thousands of times, and be easy to setup (+ & -, not wiring 12 batteries together)]]>Dec 23rd 2009 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Take a look at gel batteries that are used in forklifts. ;)]]>Dec 23rd 2009 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
Dumbass.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/No sir, you are the true douche for being a fear monger and bringing up 9\11. And being a fear monger and being afraid of terrorists is exactly what they want, so you're letting them win.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.trojanbattery.com/Products/RenewableEnergy.aspx). Car batteries are not quite the same. I have tried that. The best is to get a forklift gel battery. Failing that, Trojan has a nice battery (8D-AGM) that would do almost as well. Some websites list it as a marine battery, but on the Trojan site it is a Renewable Energy battery.
Where I am right now, we have 4 Trace Batteries, with that I can watch my 47" LCD TV and have the fridge on for more than 5 hours. If only the fridge and a couple of lights and a ceiling fan (depending on design) I can get more than 20 hours. It is sad that I know this, but it is true. The reason I have four batteries is because they are 6v and my inverter is a 24v model (all inverters over 1kw are like that, I believe). I have a friend down here who has 12 batteries, he gets 24hrs out of his bank, while using his microwave and elevator.

In short, if these batteries do as Panasonic/Sanyo say, I will start selling those babies the day they are available.]]>Dec 23rd 2009 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/So you are swimming in money and are in the dominican republic for a year? CIA section chief? Or do you travel around the world rubbing it in for fun, or because cheney hired you as secondary evildoer?

]]>Dec 24th 2009 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/]]>Dec 24th 2009 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
I should have written that most people use the grid for "storage". They feed their excess power back to the grid where it is used by other people (not really stored), and they receive credits for that energy. When they are running short then they draw from the grid. The utility company keeps tabs on the balance and credits or charges the customer at the end of the year. No storage really needed unless you want to be off of the grid completely.]]>Dec 24th 2009 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/
You mean stargates?

I'll shut up now...]]>Dec 25th 2009 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/Dec 23rd 2009 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/panasonic-and-new-best-friend-sanyo-plan-one-week-storage-batter/I see it more as something that will allow you to have lighting in your home, charge you mobile so you can access the internet or call someone and have your home phone still working when you lose power (I don't know why so many home phone need power for them to work)

This is a great idea; I would like it to be stackable so you can get more than one.
I paid 79$ for my UPS which gives me 13 to 18 minutes uptime for my computer. once I lost power and powered down the PC and plugged two LED light and powered my speakers which was plugged into my Zune and had lights and music while putting a puzzle together.
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Li-Ions in mobile phones start to lose their charge after a few years. Even car batteries. What info is available to see these larger (and obviously more expensive) backup generators lasting for 5, 10, 20 years?

If they last for 20 years or more, then that's pretty good. Otherwise......]]>Dec 23rd 2009 4:52PM