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Wow! What an alibi! Hust tell the public that you can't accept further online sales for the Big Apple and just let be trashed-talk by people and all will be fine, ahayt Luke? Reminiscing his ads zzZz: http://bit.ly/luke-wilson-headless-ads-worst]]>Dec 28th 2009 3:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
at&t needs to stop pussyfooting around with making commercials and schemes to make less people use their network and just build more towers to increase capacity and signal strength. ]]>Dec 28th 2009 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Oh that one was good! +1]]>Dec 28th 2009 12:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/+2]]>Dec 28th 2009 2:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 3:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/45]]>Dec 28th 2009 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/]]>Dec 28th 2009 12:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
That's one of the most original ideas ever brought to engadget... ]]>Dec 28th 2009 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
And to the clowns bashing AT&T about their network and hoping the iPhone comes to your carrier, be careful what you ask for. Report after report I've seen has pointed to the iPhone as the culprit for the dropped calls...not the network. Keep that in mind before you start mindlessly repeat some random comment you heard.]]>Dec 28th 2009 12:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/12/claim-that-crappy-iphone-service-is-apples-fault-is-bunkum.ars).

"Keep that in mind before you start mindlessly repeat some random comment you heard."]]>Dec 28th 2009 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
"A source—who requested we not reveal his identity—told Ars that the problem isn't the cell radio hardware, nor the network infrustructure, but an issue with the way that the iPhone OS conserves power. All iPhone apps, including Phone.app, cause the radio to switch from "active" to "idle" mode when accessing the network far more often than traditional phones do. This causes the signaling channel, responsible for such functions as SMS messaging, initiating, maintaining, or ending a phone call, voicemail notifications, and DHCP requests, to become overloaded."


Did you even read your link? Sounds like a handset issue to me. ]]>Dec 28th 2009 12:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
it cant be a handset issue because theres iphones all over the world and i dont hear people in the uk,germany,japan or other places complaining. its at&t's fault nothing more. ]]>Dec 28th 2009 1:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
If you read the article Cats mentioned, there is a link about Cnet UK complaining about the iphone.

Also the iphone is not very popular in Japan.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/02/why-the-iphone/
(That article is a little inaccurate but the editor's note does say it hasn't sold well in Japan)]]>Dec 28th 2009 2:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Valid point. *IF* this is the issue, it makes you wonder if Apple is playing one hell of a chess game here. Wouldn't it make sense for Jobs to come out with an iSlate in January and release a CDMA iPhone in the customary June, allowing them more time to fix this possible issue? The interesting guilt-by-correlation-instead-of-causation would be another blow to AT&T: iPhone sucked with AT&T but rocks with Verizon, hence AT&T was the problem. This would leave the iPhone's image intact, would it not?
Still, I had a BB Curve with AT&T about 2 years ago and constantly had dropped calls, so who the hell knows.]]>Dec 28th 2009 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
"...Report after report..."? Funny, but I don't see a single link in your post to one of these "reports"...

But there is this nugget about how AT&T hasn't kept up with demand:
http://gizmodo.com/5428717/att-has-spent-less-on-network-construction-every-quarter-since-the-iphones-launch

And check news.com and many other websites for their stories about AT&T's crappy network in those cities (SF & NY), and then, most importantly, check the comments and how many people that are complaining about the network from personal experience (myself included). If it was the phone, you'd see the same complaints in every major city around the world. But ya don't.

Also, go to an Apple Store and get your iPhone tested. They now have software that will show you when it is the iPhone that is dropping the call due to a problem with the handset as opposed to the network. Does AT&T have a way of proving that? Didn't think so...]]>Dec 28th 2009 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
Who indeed? We're never going to get a straight answer from anyone involved. I do like your theory about Apple's potential game plan.

I've been on ATT in the Denver area for about 10 years. With half a dozen phones, in all that time I've had less than 3 dozen dropped calls.
Though one of those cost me a GF. Due to the timing of the drop she thought I hung up on her, and I couldn't talk her down.
More recent experience, standing outside a hospital in Boulder making calls on my Pure while my cousin stood next to me on his 3GS, 45 min. worth of calls I dropped none, he dropped 3. ]]>Dec 28th 2009 3:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/If Google can get down to basics and fix their lousy Gmail Contacts and Calendar apps, the Nexus One might be the "one" to actually give Apple a run for its money. Been a Mac user for years and want to go back to the iPhone but I need a phone that's dependable. AT&T's low churn can be explained by my 2-week withdrawal symptoms after having the iPhone for a short 30 days.]]>Dec 28th 2009 3:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Meant to add: too bad about the GF. I have to say that someone understanding and trusting wouldn't give you so much shit over that. My wife and I kept calling each other back and going to v-mail because of the crazy dropped calls. A bigger issue for me was that I almost lost a whole lot of important business because of 3 dropped calls in a row. Hello Sprint Hero.]]>Dec 28th 2009 3:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
I'm just the opposite, using a borrowed 3GS for a long 8 hours was enough to sour me to iPOS, maybe for good. The real deal breaker though was the fixed battery, I simply use my phone too much.

The Nexus One looks good, and though I'd prefer the HD2, the same thing is keeping me away from both phones, the chance that t-mob will turn on HSPA+ a few months after I buy it.

But then again, I'm much happier with my Pure since I turned off Touchflo 3D. Not too many other people saying that. ]]>Dec 28th 2009 3:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
LOL, just as well about the GF, a sane person would have let it go.
Chick had a serious weak spot about being hung up on.

Dropped business calls will do it every time.
I hung on to my land line for years for the same reason. ]]>Dec 28th 2009 3:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
I don't see how it could be the iPhone, and not the network. I live in Seattle, and have virtually no issues with ATT service on my iPhone. Both data and voice work flawlessly. No issues.

Last October, I visited a relative, whom I convinced to get the iPhone as well, who lives in Manhattan. I rarely made a call that wasn't dropped, and was continuously resetting my iPhone to get a data connection back. I wouldn't have an iPhone in New York, and don't I feel stupid for convincing my relative to get one...]]>Dec 28th 2009 5:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/The UK iPhone users seems to be having dropped call problems. Although many Australians have chimed in on other forums and claim to have little or no problems. As far as NYC, I know lots of current and former T-Mobile users who are extremely disappointed in their service in NYC and the surrounding areas. In 15+ years I have rarely had dropped call problems with Verizon Wireless in NYC or the surrounding areas. I now have Sprint and also rarely drop calls. As a Mac user, and having used the iPhone and AT&T's BB Curve with tons of dropped calls, I think that it is an AT&T problem also, but who the hell can be completely sure at this point? Interesting that we see AT&T putting more emphasis lately on "fastest 3G network" and much less on "fewest dropped calls." Their "fewest dropped calls" study was paid-for crappola anyway.

Btw I should have said "dual CDMA/GSM." With the trend toward dual bands in some newer smart phones, I just plugged in CDMA without specifying.]]>Dec 28th 2009 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
That reminds me of Ronald Jenkees 56k rap song...

I think about the future, of 2003;
I think about my PC depreciating on me.
I don’t mind, it aint nuttin’ to me:
56K is where it’ll be.

I think about the future, of 2003;
I think about my PC depreciating on me.
I don’t mind, it aint nuttin’ to me:
56K is where it’ll be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSn2Y1HhpbQ

Hurts my head, but it's still funny.]]>Dec 28th 2009 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 1:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/
Satiated?]]>Dec 28th 2009 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 1:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Yes, at least PC World ranked Sprint as 90.8% reliable and Att 68% reliable.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/167391/a_day_in_the_life_of_3g.html]]>Dec 28th 2009 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Ok i wil actually answer your question unlike the first dumbass.
Sprint's 3G coverage is much larger than ATT's and it can roam on Verizon's. So imo, yes. ]]>Dec 28th 2009 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/atandt-suspends-online-iphone-sales-in-new-york-city-reasons-stil/Dec 28th 2009 12:54AM