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i know it doesn't support the ATT 3G bands, but this phone is too damn good to pass up]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
Really? This phone will be useless on EDGE. I know seeing as how I have an iPhone and it's only useful when I'm on 3G. On EDGE everything slows to grinding halt. It takes FOREVER to do the most simple of tasks on my phone when I'm on AT&T's EDGE.

Which is why it angers me when I see those stupid ass Luke Wilson commercials about how AT&T reaches 300 million people...

I'm sorta hoping Verizon comes back with how many people they reach with full 3G service vs AT&T's 3G service.

Anyways this phone would nice to have on AT&T (aside from it's ugliness) but the fact that it won't work on AT&T's 3G is what ruins it for me...]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
I really wish T-MObile will get some steroids and grow big and strong and give us those 3G airwaves in more places. This phone is worth it !!! (Sponsored by L'Oreal)]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/I dunno, I have a MyTouch and I've always found it to be perfectly usable on Edge. Sure, 3G is nicer, but it's absolutely nowhere near worthless when it drops to the slower connection. I had a G1 for like six months before 3G was available in my area and I thought it was the best phone ever, I used the connectivity all the time and it was never frustrating or unusable.]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
($80 V/T/W * 24 months) + $180 = $2100
($40 V/T (+ $10 for W)) + $530 = $1730]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
And in my experience, as well as talking to others who have AT&T, AT&T's EDGE is a POS. ]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
Yeah perhaps EDGE (or w/e T-Mo calls it) is better with T-Mo but it's absolutely garbage on AT&T. Which is the reason why I made absolutely sure that I got reliable 3G service on my iPhone 3GS before I kept it.]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 29th 2009 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
Why get a nexus 1 on ATT with no 3g when you can have an iphone 3gs than runs on 3g? Seems like a dumb move to me.]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
Because he's not buying an iPhone. Its a matter of his preference of Android over iPhone OS. And there is the matter of the 1ghz Snapdragon...I myself will be buying one, as i am currently locked into contract for another 6 months, and i live in an area where there is no AT&T 3G, so buying an iPhone is useless for me. I have wifi in my house and my dorm at school, and i currently use a G1 on edge which works perfectly fine. So for me (and alot of others who dont live in 3G areas), the advantage lies in being able to get cheaper data with an unlocked phone, and the much faster processor in the Nexus One. ]]>Dec 29th 2009 10:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
If you don't mind ATT, of course get an iPhone 3GS. Android is, at best, a pale imitation with no apps.]]>Dec 29th 2009 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 29th 2009 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
I live in Dallas, and I've always had T-Mobile 3G available.

Really: T-Mobile has the cheapest plans (Even More Plus: $80 for unlimited everything), and they support 3G on the best damn smartphones on the market (Nokia N900 and the G1). Why the hell would you want to bash them unless you're being paid by another carrier?]]>Dec 29th 2009 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 29th 2009 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/I just signed up for the "plus V/T/W" for $60 ... but I guess I can switch again to save $10 / mo.]]>Dec 30th 2009 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/I don't seem to have any problems anymore with my T-Mobile service. 3G pretty much everywhere in St. Louis. Most of the time I even get five bars on my G1.

Speaking of which, we G1 users should get some kind of discount for getting the first Android phones. Maybe some kind of trade-in program.]]>Dec 30th 2009 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 30th 2009 1:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/$529.99 :(
]]>Dec 30th 2009 2:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 30th 2009 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/I use Android Dev Phone 1 (i.e. HTC Dream, i.e. G1) on AT&T on EDGE for more than a year now, and it is perfectly usable. Yes, I often need to wait for several / a couple of seconds for web site to load, but that's it. If I need to download really big application, I do it while on WiFi connection.]]>Dec 30th 2009 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 30th 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
Thanks!]]>Dec 30th 2009 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
The $10/ month web only works on certain phones. Android phones have to have the $25/month "Android Data Plan", which used to include 400 text messages when it was just the "G1 Data Plan", but doesn't anymore.

There was, apparently, a time when you could hack the $10 plan to work on other phones, but T-Mobile seems to have closed that loophole as I tried it and just got a page telling me I had to upgrade my service.
]]>Dec 30th 2009 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Its not that bad. I have been using the phone on AT&T for awhile now (I also used the G1 and Ion on AT&T) with no 3G and yes it hurts a bit to browse large websites and download big maps in Google Maps but for everyday stuff you will rarely feel the difference.
Basic Google Searches, Syncing with Gmail, Sports updates via Apps, Facebook App usage etc etc all work just fine. You don't have to worry about Calls and SMS cause that really doesn't make a difference :)

That being said, we aren't sure if AT&T will be releasing a 1ghz Android phone in the 1-2 quarter of 2010 so you MAY want to wait...but this phone is awesome]]>Dec 30th 2009 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
More details about the pricing of Google phone: http://bit.ly/nexus-one-price-too-much-or-not-details]]>Dec 31st 2009 4:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
I thought it was a standard policy to at least have 30 days with no penalty?

Sounds really shady and horrible to me. IF this is true then Google and this phone fail automatically.]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/1. you can return the phone within 30 days
2. the ETF basically has you buy the phone for breaking the contract
$180 + $350 = $530
and you get to keep it]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
Hmm okay I see the OR part too (I wish Engadget would highlight that part).

So if I canceled and returned the phone to Google I wouldn't have to pay that $350 fee right?

That's marginally better but it still sounds a little perplexing for your average consumer.

Either way I'm intrigued to say the least. It should be interesting to see how the general public receives this device. We already know the blogosphere and all the anti apple nerds are hardcore all about this device and hyping it up to epic proportions but will that actually translate into sales success?]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 29th 2009 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 30th 2009 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 30th 2009 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 29th 2009 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
Yeah, I was hoping for $450, tops (based on the unsubsidized prices of Cliq, BB 9700, etc.). I've needed an upgrade for a while, and had more or less decided to go Nexus One, barring a restrictive "price point"... but $530 makes it tough to take that plunge. Urgh...]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 29th 2009 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
That's true, TP2 may be a better comparison ... I was hoping (unreasonably) that the higher prices of those Windows HTC phones was a Windows thing, but guess it makes sense that it's due to hardware.]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
Except hardware-wise, the Nexus One is far better than the Cliq. Did you expect more for less? This isn't Wal-Mart!]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
Ha ha, true enough... wishful thinking, I guess (based more on my own price "threshold" than a realistic comparison).]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
$9.99 with a $5 Rollover discount and be purchasable through Food Stamps. :D ( Monthly rate of $3.99 that can be paid with recycled plastic bottled )]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/well I'm not exactly calling the price bad, but I figured that when the Dev-Phone 1 released it sold for $399, so it would make sense for this to be as well. An older article did say that the price was going to be very competitive unlocked

and as for the Touch Pro 2 comparison. High-End WinMo phones seem to be a league of their own, kind of like Blackberries. For me at least, the comparable platforms are WebOS, iPhone, and Android.]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 29th 2009 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
Hey, I love Walmart. (Specially the Return Policy) ]]>Dec 30th 2009 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 30th 2009 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/well I just mean in terms of pricing. Some of them are as high as $350, who pays that much when business users clamor to the Blackberries, and regular consumers get a choice of a good android/webOS/iphone device in that $100-$200 range for a given carrier.
if you're a fan of WinMo, you don't have to teach me about how it has more capabilities and what not, I was a big time WinMo user, but no matter how good the hardware, the usability is just garbage]]>Dec 30th 2009 8:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Damn it, Topolsky!]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 29th 2009 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Cripes, my plan is €10/mo for 50 minutes and unlimited texts ... I can't ever envision needing 500 minutes ...]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 29th 2009 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/I sure as hell wouldn't want this phone if I was going to be talking over 500 minutes a month. Get a phone that's ergonomic and small if you're going to be doing that much talking. This is designed purely for the people who use data a lot more than voice.]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/Dec 29th 2009 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/allegedly-leaked-nexus-one-purchase-page-answers-raises-questio/
That's fair, I hadn't thought of that. I've tried 5 or 6 different bluetooth headsets and I hated them all, so I'm still in the land of holding bricks up to my face.]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:39PM