http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/ Engadget Comments for Console scuttlebutt: multi-core CPU for next-gen PlayStation, Intel inside future Wii http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 7:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/lol what pc is smaller than a ps3 and packs that much parallel processing]]>Dec 29th 2009 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/i7 920 has about 50 GFLOPs of mathematical power
PS3 Cell BE has about 210 GFLOPs of mathematical power]]>Jan 2nd 2010 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
Flops aren't everything. Also, performance takes into account the GPU too.]]>Jan 7th 2010 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Jan 23rd 2010 7:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Jan 26th 2010 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/"For double-precision floating point operations, as sometimes used in personal computers and often used in scientific computing, Cell performance drops by an order of magnitude, but still reaches 20.8 GFLOPS (1.8 GFLOPS per SPE, 6.4 GFLOPS per PPE). The PowerXCell 8i variant, which was specifically designed for double-precision, reaches 102.4 GFLOPS in double-precision calculations"

Hmm, 102.4GFlops according to wikipedia. Not over 200. Sorry. Even then, only in very special circumstances will it achieve peak efficiency. Read: "Recent tests by IBM show that the SPEs can reach 98% of their theoretical peak performance using optimized parallel Matrix Multiplication".

Very rarely in real world or gaming calculations are you performing parallel Matrix Multiplication or using DP calculations. Its SP percision is only about 160GFlops. Don't forget that 2 out of every 8 cores can't be put towards games as 1 is reserved for the PS3 OS and the other is disabled to improve factory yields. So your only getting 75% of your cores right off the bat decreasing your theortical 160 GFlops for sp calculations to 3/4ths (120G flops).

Regardless, a 5870 is 2.4 Teraflops and a 5970 is 4.7 Teraflops without overclocking which blows the Sony PS3's cell processor measily 0.09 to 0.12 Teraflops way. PS3 compared to PC is no competition and never has been.]]>Feb 10th 2010 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 7:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
i think the wii ni would be a more appropriate name...]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/that's if nvidia can pull out a multi-core tegra solution for nintendo otherwise they still have ibm and amd]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 7:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/You lost me at "developers is us to it so"
:/]]>Dec 29th 2009 7:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 7:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
Cleaned it up as best I could)]]>Dec 29th 2009 7:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
OHHHHHHH. I get it.]]>Dec 29th 2009 7:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 7:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/cell graphic is already way behind current PC, what ever GOW3 developers say, it doesnt look that great, huge monster has been on many many games.]]>Dec 29th 2009 8:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/ohlol. I see now. Thank you. :)]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
Yup, look at how far cell got...]]>Dec 29th 2009 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/"it just lazy developers that don't know what they doing that cant make good game on the ps3!"

That's where you're wrong, sir. People that I know that are or were in the gaming industry say that it's not a lack of desire to produce PS3 games, it's just overly difficult. Depending on the toolkit and the engine, it can add at least 8 months to the development cycle to include the PS3. That's not to say that there aren't ways to make a PS3 exclusive game easily, but when you have to code for one system and then nearly rewrite everything for another, it becomes ineffective from a cost perspective.]]>Dec 29th 2009 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
Well, it didn't infiltrate the consumer space, but the government and various university people are doing some awesome things with them.

Although, I don't remember ever being exposed to any kind of marketing purporting that the Cell was going to infiltrate my gadgets/life. I should have been, because I was looking forward to the PS3 and PSP-1000. I also bought a PS3 60GB a few months after it came out.]]>Dec 29th 2009 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/ibm-powerxcell-8i-processor-said-to-be-last-of-its-kind-but-cel/
If Sony continues using IBM procecssors I suspect they will move to more of a 360 style architecture since computing in general is moving in a multi-core trend. The next PlayStation may have SPEs but they won't be treated like co-processors as they are now. Regardless if Sony wants to stay in the game and do better next gen they need to be more supportive of the developers, enter at a more reasonable price point, and enter the game sooner.]]>Dec 29th 2009 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
Nintendo always changes up their next console. its not going to be "the next wii" so stop calling it that.]]>Dec 29th 2009 7:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
I think there might be a Wii 2 this time. Nintendo aren't selling to the same people they traditionally have.
In the "casual" market brand consistency it more important than exciting new names.]]>Dec 29th 2009 7:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 7:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 8:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/My vote is for Wii², aka WiiWii.]]>Dec 29th 2009 8:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
I'm sure the next Nintendo system will have a new name, just as sure as Sony will no doubt call their next system the PlayStation 4 (in a move of sheer unoriginality).]]>Dec 29th 2009 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/I'm hoping Sony makes a move that will startle the industry...

Call there next gen, Playstation Bravia... (or something that ties the product to their other lines of products)]]>Dec 29th 2009 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
Wii ii]]>Dec 29th 2009 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
Wiich? ]]>Dec 29th 2009 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 31st 2009 5:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
Or because Sony doesn't wanna deal with IBM anymore. We all remember what IBM did with Sony by using the base of cell research to create the X360's chip on Sony's money.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123069467545545011.html]]>Dec 29th 2009 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 7:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/Dec 29th 2009 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
A scalable processor doesn't just mean higher clock speed. I think they would be smart to do the cell thing again and invest in high-end graphics instead.]]>Dec 29th 2009 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/29/console-scuttlebutt-multi-core-cpu-for-next-gen-playstation-in/
I do not want a more powerful graphics, just smoother ones.]]>Dec 29th 2009 7:45AM