http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/ Engadget Comments for OnLive shows off UI and iPhone use in marathon tech demo (video) http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
And that is why the CEO is going to be making a fortune, and you'll be paying him to play in your mom's basement.

He understands that if this service is to make even a dime of profit, it has to be capable of drawing attention away from the current consoles, and it has to be hyped and primed for just the right time to market. If it sucks at launch, even just a little bit, he might as well dust off his resumé and go spend some time at monster.com.]]>Dec 30th 2009 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
Does the cloud you're fucking have 4 legs and go "Bahhhhhhh"?]]>Dec 30th 2009 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Mine has two legs and goes "Ahhhhh"]]>Dec 30th 2009 1:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 8:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/If you'd bothered to watch the video you'd know...






Ok, it's supposed to come out some time this winter.]]>Dec 30th 2009 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
Yep.

It said winter 09.]]>Dec 31st 2009 7:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
What? The guy just spent 50 minutes telling you how it works in great detail. You think they'd get financing if it didn't ?]]>Dec 30th 2009 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
Id have to agree with Cube on this, for any twitch game (FPSs/racing/etc games), latency plays a huge role in the outcome of the game, higher latency would mean you are more likely to mess up. Even though the compression algorithms are super advanced with very minimal latency, you will still have to deal with some form of latency that cannot be overcome no matter how hard you try (distance from server to client)

For the casual player, this wouldnt be much of a problem, hardcore players will find this a problem (if you claim your hardcore, and you dont find this a problem, your not hardcore)]]>Dec 30th 2009 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
Ah, but the increased latency in the system is offset by the lowered latency to the servers - so you effectively can see exactly where people are at all times.

Then it comes down to what kind of latency you want - input and display, or server. Somehow, I suspect I would prefer the latter and traditional one, lending your point some validity, but who knows - I've never tried the system before.]]>Dec 30th 2009 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
exactly, they have spent years getting this right, and they seem like gamers themselves.. having something that doesn't work seems pointless to promote. with an 80ms delay that he says has been proved to fall within our perceptual range, I'm inclined to agree with him. it just doesn't plausible that they would sell something that doesn't work for the main feature it rely's on. It's like selling a boat that doesn't float, you just can't get away with it. PLUS everyone there who tries it says they don't notice the lag. I guess ultimately everyone will have to try it themselves before they believe it.]]>Dec 30th 2009 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/I don't think this'll work at all. 80ms = instantaneous my ass

http://img228.imageshack.us/i/mouselaggn6.swf/

first set the arrow to the left for a regular mouse with no lag, now set it to 80ms and see how instantaneous that feels]]>Dec 30th 2009 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
Very interesting find, i somewhat broke it however and gained an added effect, i was able to see my mouse crusor over it while the flash animation was running.]]>Dec 30th 2009 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
I'm on a mac, which already has some lag built in, then, when set to 0 ms, I could still feel additional lag from it being flash. Then I added 80 ms, which by now probably were 120 ms. It's annoying, but not horrible.

Of course, 80 ms is worst case scenario, remember that. If you live right next to a server park, well..]]>Dec 31st 2009 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
Like seeing it in the numerous demos and videos they have shown? Amazing how everyone trashes this service and acts like it couldn't work no matter what they are shown. We get it, you have to act jaded on the internet...]]>Dec 30th 2009 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
your argument doesn't make any sense. This is a subscription service. If it doesn't work people stop paying. It's not like they are duping you with a one off payment is it ? ]]>Dec 30th 2009 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
Looking at your response, you're either stupid or a jackass. I think it may be a combo of both. ]]>Dec 30th 2009 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 9:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/In the world, 2009 ends the day after tomorrow]]>Dec 30th 2009 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
Spare us. If you let your XBL gold account revert back to silver(free) then your arcade games work just like they did before. It is not the same thing at all. ]]>Dec 30th 2009 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/you get killed twice during that time in a deathmatch :D]]>Dec 30th 2009 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
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Piracy is the result of faulty business models. An example of this is the hyped game that sucks and you wish you could unbuy. Another is wait for the game to download, or the obligatory patches that you have to install to play the game (steam).

With the inherent flexibility of the system, the instant gratification that even piracy can't match, it isn't the HOW that will be the main block for piracy, it's the WHY.

And that's the best way.]]>Dec 30th 2009 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/
(I think that's what I heard)]]>Dec 30th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/onlive-shows-off-ui-and-iphone-use-in-marathon-tech-demo-video/Dec 30th 2009 9:57AM