http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 3rd 2010 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Probably not

Game devs already are pushing their budgets to develop the games that would fill an entire dual layer blu ray.

The increase will affect movies, not games - or at least not this gen.]]>Jan 3rd 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Hear, hear]]>Jan 2nd 2010 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Two channel audio at low bitrates FTL!! ]]>Jan 2nd 2010 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
2.5 hours in my case wouldn't be bad. Although they would have to do pre-downloading like Valve did with HL2 for it to work.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 4:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/I see what you did, there...]]>Jan 2nd 2010 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Kidding, I just find it funny how people manage to squeeze extra storage out of the same amount of spece.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
If only I could find a way to fit more data in my brain. ]]>Jan 2nd 2010 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Talk about memory cards, i remember a few years ago i was celebrating when i got a 512mb memory card for my nokia 6600

now you can get from 2gb-32gb and 64 coming soon too..]]>Jan 2nd 2010 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
IIRC, standard 700MB CD raw capacity is about 1.2GB. IOW 500MB is lost on extra info/dummy tracks/etc required to ensure readability of the useful 700MB after all possible minor problems the physical media might experience in the use. (I found that out after seeing that VideoCD files take ~1GB space on a 700MB CD - VideoCD allows for a higher error rates (broken video frames can be skipped) allowing it to use more of raw CD capacity compared to the normal data CD.)

Something similar I expect of the BD too.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Fitting the data in may be the easy part. Using the data may prove to be the more difficult part.]]>Jan 3rd 2010 3:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
What's the point?
Tackle this problem when it arrives.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
there are other uses to blu ray discs other than media, organizations can use them for archives, back-up and etc..]]>Jan 2nd 2010 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Plain HDDs are much cheaper and much faster - especially at recovery.

I was evaluating something for my home back-up needs. I wanted to buy BD burner - before I have seen that 2.5 USB-powered HDD @ 500GB costs ~$80.... That bargain is hard to beat.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/nothing starts ultra-cheap. eventually BD-Rs will become cheaper than HDDs, like DVD-Rs are now]]>Jan 2nd 2010 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Actually there a quite a few movies that fill a 2 layer Blu-Ray with the movie and audio and have to provide a second disk just for extras. Likewise there a number of games that fill a 2 layer Blu-Ray. So the time is coming when we'll be disc swapping with Blu-Ray while playing games.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
1TB (re)drive was $90 at Frys recently.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
well, if you sign up for dvd rental services like lovefilm/blockbuster, blu-rays can be rented for the same price as dvds]]>Jan 2nd 2010 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Well, maybe in the US, but not where I'm from. Most DVD rentals were killed off by streaming during the last 3 years over here (central Europe).]]>Jan 2nd 2010 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Sometimes one file exceedes the limit of a DVD, even with 2 layers.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Pays off to just have them LIVE, on hd space.
Havent burnt a dvd in 3 years or more. And i have somewhere between 5000 to 10000 units.
They die quicker than hds also. No matter the bull pr spreads. Go check 10 old random cds/dvds from your collection... good luck.
Have around 17 teras and its way way better (and cheaper, and faster, and more confortable and more safe.)
]]>Jan 2nd 2010 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 5th 2010 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Jan 2nd 2010 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
I think we are in agreement that media is better. I don't want compressed downloads - I want 1080p (or higher) and I want lossless audio. I have netflix and I got really irked that one of the movies I wanted was only available for download as I HATE downloaded movies from netflix. I want the MEDIA.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Hear hear to that! If you truly care about the quality of your image and sound physical media is still the only way to go. Until streaming services can guarantee no difference between the two I'll stick with Blu-Ray.

Also, there's currently no real way to own something digital that's as high quality as a Blu-Ray, not without a monster internet connection at least. Physical media is still the best option if you care about the viewing experience, digital downloads just aren't there yet.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
You do realize Sony does more the blu-ray, right? They aren't going to get taken out.
The price excuse is BS. You can buy blu-ray players for $100 and movies for $10 new.
Physical media will not die, don't you worry. ]]>Jan 2nd 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
The only BR discs I'll consider purchasing are recorded AVC or VC-1 with lossless audio and I can't think of a single movie I want that isn't using a 50GB disc vs. a 25 GB disc.

And yes, I'll probably be burning BR discs for data transfers and backups so yes the larger capacity is welcome as I hate shipping hard drives.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/Its 2010 Sony, time to wake up.
]]>Jan 2nd 2010 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Well the problem is optical disc is still the cheapest distribution method if you are trying to transfer large amounts of data and it's ubiquitous in that anyone can receive a disc in the mail.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Indeed, specifically as most of the world doesn't have the internet connection or the patients for downloadable media as large as a full 1080p movie with lossless audio.

Also, most of the world doesn't have an extensive download solution. No Netflix's in Europe, all we get is the iTunes store (which needs an Apple TV and only has 720p) and the Zune store on the 360 (which has limited selection and no options to own the media). And some places don't even have that!

The death of optical media may be obvious for some mediums (computer programs spring to mind), but not others as the internet speeds just are not up to delivering the same quality quickly. ]]>Jan 2nd 2010 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/
Call me an old fuddy but I still buy CD's and rip them myself and keep the discs as master copies.]]>Jan 2nd 2010 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/new-standard-could-pave-way-for-higher-capacity-blu-ray-discs/why Are people so hard up to claim physical media is dead? i don't get it. lets stop and think for a moment rather than spit regurgitated hearsay.

the largest currrently offered ps3 system has a 250GB hdd. now youd be lucky to store 10-15 complete games at that size. and i for one always have more than that for any system. and if your system crashes? 250GB of downloads to fil it again? wow. no thanks.

and video. there is exactly 1 streaming service that supports 1080i streaming. and it looks OK. the video is still highly compressed and you lose much of the detail. so the winner here is again blu-ray. i dont like watching shifting blocks for all you people that like things just "good enough", go for it. but i prefer quality and as was stated before, physical media has the pipe beat hands down.
how many people do you expect to have internet connections to their tv's anyway? you won't see 90% penetration like that for quite a few years. i would say on the order of at least a decade. ]]>Jan 2nd 2010 4:27PM