http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/ Engadget Comments for Horizon's Hydrofill converts water to hydrogen, hydrogen into juice for your gadgets http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/wow, you guys don't know your gadgets, it's just a first gen Sony MyLo with 'shopped on Xbox buttons]]>Jan 4th 2010 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/
"Cheap"? if you disregard the cost of electricity, maybe... Hydrogen production uses 3 x the electrical energy a fuel cell later provides. Talk about an electricity hog.]]>Jan 4th 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/
But seriously this is very cool, especially considering it uses water--negating the need to buy methanol or some other fluid...]]>Jan 4th 2010 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/
Why go electricity->hydrogen->electricity when you can just store the electricity in a battery? The device seems completely pointless and does nothing but waste energy.]]>Jan 4th 2010 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/
Note how there is no price listed, nor is the size of this device readily apparent. My guess is that for the same size and/or price, you could bring with you a battery pack that would easily last as long as you would ever need a device to.

Still though, a device that runs on water would be damn cool in some situations (like extended camping trips, or some such), but don't expect for it to come cheap.]]>Jan 4th 2010 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/
But these fuel cells should have vastly higher energy capacities compared to Li-Ions. Without quoting numbers, full cells come much closer to petrol in energy capacity than batteries do. ]]>Jan 4th 2010 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/
"fuel cells should have vastly higher energy capacities compared to Li-Ions"

As much as I dig your Tea Pot, that is not true. When you consider volumetric energy density, H2 is at 10.1 mega joule per liter, while Li sits at 23 MJ/L. Hydrogen (marginally) got two things going for it:

1- Hydrogen is light weight.
2- Fills up quicker than electrons (much like fuel).

As Zipkiddo noted, electrolysis is a highly inefficient process that consumes 3 times the electrical energy it generates. Not to mention that these things are gimmicks promoting the "Hydrogen Economy", just like the Shell, BP, Exxon and Chevron ads you see on TV. In reality only 4% of all hydrogen produced comes from electrolysis (they do it to put on a good face on H2). Most of Hydrogen comes from hydrocarbons reformation, particularly Natural Gas reformation, it is the cheapest, profitable and well dirty way to produce Hydrogen. The oil companies intention is to displace emissions from your tailpipe, or gadget to their Hydrogen plants, somewhere where you can't see the smoke. All the while Oil companies continue to profit from their Natural Gas resources.

All this may seem far fetched to some, but ask yourself, why are these companies investing heavily on ads and full flagged PR campaigns, if they don't intend to cash in big time? Why did Chevron lock batteries advancements with their (purchased) patents for nearly a decade?]]>Jan 4th 2010 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water]]>Jan 4th 2010 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/My thoughts precisely. It's HindenbUrg, or Castle of Hinden, not Hindenberg, or Mountain of Hinden.
Besides, we're probably talking very small amounts of Hydrogen, so it can't possibly be worse than a Li-Ion battery leaking. At least it saves you the chemical burn AND you get free water]]>Jan 4th 2010 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/
There is NO free electricity. You need energy to get energy and you need more of it to split the water. Just think about how much is gonna be wasted to heat alone!?!?!! ]]>Jan 4th 2010 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/I don't see how efficiency matters much when we are talking about low power devices. I would gladly accept a 10% (or less) efficiency rating if this new device lasts a long time, is cost effective and doesn't need a replacement every year or two, like my cell-phone.]]>Jan 4th 2010 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Only if you have a solar panel then you can plug it in the generator, add water and generate some hydrogen.
And water in the desert is a lot more important so just keep it and bring some damn BATTERIES with you. this tech is useless.]]>Jan 4th 2010 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/Jan 4th 2010 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/horizons-hydrofill-converts-water-to-hydrogen-hydrogen-into-ju/
How many lighters have exploded in people's pockets compared to batteries blowing up?]]>Jan 4th 2010 2:44PM