http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/That's cool, but it's not tmobile, it is google. The phone isn't even sold through Tmobile, it's sold through google.]]>Jan 6th 2010 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Yeah, unfortunately, T mob cant do anything about it. Its Google's dumb ass move. Whats the big deal about having it unsunbsidized anyways? Is that not what ebay is for?
They also wont let you get it on a plan if your a family either. Its for individual plans only. Oh, and dont forget they dont want you talking too much on it, with that measly 500 minute standard plan and all.
Well, I guess I will keep my G1 for a while longer. Love the potential of Android still, but man, its turning to crap quickly.]]>Jan 6th 2010 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
you can sign online petition here
http://www.petitiononline.com/nexusone/petition.html

Currently 223 signatures.]]>Jan 6th 2010 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
Here's how to get an upgrade discount:

1) Make new account
2) Port existing number
3) Eat ETF on old account]]>Jan 6th 2010 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
It seems like the odds are so high, I'm surprised Sprint itself isn't riddling its website with typos.]]>Jan 6th 2010 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
I don't get it. Why SHOULD existing customers get subsidys? They haven't finished paying for the FIRST subsidy.

News flash: when you sign a two year agreement, you're stuck with that phone for two years. If a new one comes out, don't expect your daddy to help you pay for it. Man up and pay the extra cost. Or, you know, keep the phone you have.

Sheesh.]]>Jan 6th 2010 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/So misguided, any carrier has an option to upgrade after 11 months or 22 months. The 11 month upgrade is not as big of a discount as the 22 month upgrade discount. So yes, existing customers should be entitled to discounted/upgrade pricing. Plus, it is extending our contracts for another 2 year period. That means they have us locked down for that time.]]>Jan 6th 2010 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
@KidDynamic Believe it or not, there's actually "current customers" who have long passed their 2-year subsidy, and should now be eligible for a new subsidy (even at a reduced amout) on a new phone...which is exactly what Google is disallowing here.

@ the rest o' y'all... I'm not entirely surprised that Google is initially limiting who can get the phone through normal (subsidized) means. I'm not saying it's right, but I can see how the company might make a move like that at first to have some way to gauge exactly how much business the hardware "draws" to the specific carrier.]]>Jan 6th 2010 2:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
As per the read link:
"Existing customers may still be eligible for a lesser discount depending on the age and type of their current plan. Your discount eligibility will be determined automatically during the ordering process."

And the link from that read link:
"Nexus One without service: $529
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for new customers: $179
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are adding data plans: $279
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are upgrading their data plans: $379"

People are upset that they don't get the lowest possible price if they're already with T-Mobile. Or at least that's kinda what's happening. Engadget didn't really make a distinction. Of course, Engadget gets lots of pageviews from confusion, so it's not in their best interests to report the issue clearly.]]>Jan 6th 2010 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
Oh and I'm almost positive that T-mobile is to blame. They set the pricing structure and Google sells the phone so T-mobile doesn't have to deal with us. ]]>Jan 6th 2010 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
Google didn't arbitrarily decide the discount pricing. They get financial incentives from the carrier and pass the savings on to the customer. It is T-Mobile who decided how much each type of customer is worth. The results are:
Price of hardware: $529
New voice and data plan: worth $350, phone sold for $179
New data plan: worth $250, phone sold for $279
New contract: worth $150, phone sold for $379

Google is just the messenger/vendor.]]>Jan 6th 2010 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
I've been a Google/TMO fanboi since day one... but this really has me pretty pissed off. TMO tech support/billing/customer service says that it is out of their hands... they aren't the ones selling it. Google doesn't seem to care at all with no customer service/support plan in place.

Overall, what should have been an good experience with some, and an awesome experience for Android fans who've helped shape the product and community, has instead turned into a giant loogie right in the face.

Man, I guess I just feel so let down by the pricing structure and the rules to purchase/use this phone.]]>Jan 6th 2010 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Although the rumors that Nexus One will be open for AT&T didn't push through (oups for ATT) Carrier Details: http://bit.ly/nexus-one-on-multiple-carriers-details
]]>Jan 6th 2010 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
But it is tmobile... Google's not the one subsidizing it. You dont get a cheaper price because you sign a 2 year google contract, you get a subsidy because you're signing a 2 year tmo contract.]]>Jan 6th 2010 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
Existing T-Mobile customers may qualify for upgrade pricing.

]]>Jan 6th 2010 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
yes, they do, but the pricing is $280/$380 depending on the plan you currently have (even if not on a contract w/T-Mo now, i.e. ppl who never were on a contract or past 1 or 2 year contract duration).

So yes, existing customers are treated worse than new. Thanks a bunch T-Mobile & Google. ]]>Jan 6th 2010 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
I don't think you understand how it works. Existing customers haven't finished paying off the previous phone they got for 'free'. That's why they have to pay more for the N1 than new customers.]]>Jan 6th 2010 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/you don't understand. Existing t-mo customers who signed a contract >22 months ago and therefore again qualify for purchase of a subsidized phone (having completed "paying for the phone they got for 'free'") are ineligible for the $179 pricing. Instead, if they sign a new contract, they get the less-discounted 279 or 379 pricing. Normally, such a customer could buy a discounted phone just as if they were a new customer. However, since Google is setting these prices, it's different. ]]>Jan 6th 2010 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
one person less from total world domination would mean that you decided to hand them your money.

"one person further away" or "one less toward their goal of" however, would mean that it was too expensive for you.]]>Jan 6th 2010 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Actually its ambiguously bad grammar either way.]]>Jan 6th 2010 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
Does it matter that much to you? The Internet is full of douches. ]]>Jan 6th 2010 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
They actually are giving a discount. If you don't have an internet data plan it's a discount of 250ish? And for everyone complaining, you only need to keep the plan for 120 days...]]>Jan 6th 2010 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
T-Mobile offers a 14-day return before you're stuck.
]]>Jan 6th 2010 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=171784]]>Jan 6th 2010 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
That's still ridiculous to charge existing custom $100 more.
This is one of the reason I keep switching between verizon and t-mobile in the past 10 years. Verizon does not treat existing custom differently.]]>Jan 6th 2010 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
Did you get pushed to the $79.99 plan?]]>Jan 6th 2010 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/Jan 6th 2010 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
That's not case when you buy t-mobile phone from 3rd party dealer.]]>Jan 6th 2010 2:07PM