http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
Yeah, right, Andy Rubin is full of it.

Josh and Chris, please keep up the good work and hound these guys until they give us the truth and stop lying through their teeth.]]>Jan 8th 2010 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
amen brother!!]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
Engadget, please stop referring to the lack of multi-touch as an "issue". An issue is something, typically overlooked by the developers, that prevents the intended functionality of some product (or service). The multi-touch implementation is intentionally voided from the US phones. Just because the iPhone has multi-touch and it is the phone you are most comfortable with does not make other phones without its implementation problematic.

Now the only question is, why do the European versions have it and the US versions do not?]]>Jan 9th 2010 3:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Andy Rubin designed the G1 & its two hand keyboard.
Andy Rubin LOVES two hand operations and just got caught in a baldfaced lie.]]>Jan 9th 2010 6:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 9th 2010 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
ANDROID SUPPORTS MULTITOUCH. If Android didn't support MultiTouch, the Dolphin multitouch browser wouldn't work.

Google's Apps: Maps, Browser, Gallery, Gmail, etc are what don't support multitouch in the US.

Do your research.]]>Jan 11th 2010 7:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://bit.ly/7VInjd]]>Jan 11th 2010 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/hahahaha...

calm down josh.]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/What does multitouch to do with "two-handed operations" ???
It makes you wonder if the guy even knows what it means!

Me for one will not buy a smartphone without multitouch. Using my iPhone for games such as Dungen hunter (UI joystick) or simply zooming in/out when surfing is a wonderful thing.]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
I'm sure Andy was referring to the lack of keyboard.

No multitouch is one thing. No keyboard is an immediate dealbreaker, and the lack of multitouch makes not having a keyboard even worse.]]>Jan 8th 2010 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
Nilay's been to actual law school, so I trust his word more than I do commenter's opinion.

He says that Apple does not have a patent on multitouch in and of itself.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/04/some-more-perspective-on-the-droid-and-multitouch/]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
Even if it is just a patent issue you'd think they'd just say that and be done with it. Why is he being so vague? It just don't make no sense.]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/How well do you trust the United States Patent and Trademark Office?
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=multi-touch&s2=multitouch&OS=multi-touch+AND+multitouch&RS=multi-touch+AND+multitouch]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
Honestly, I don't know. It's obviously an issue Google wants to address, but I personally think they're better ways than just "pinch and zoom" to zoom in. Maybe a circle or something. Idk. Google will come up with something. ]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Doubt it. Apple's patent is questionable to start with. I think it's more likely Google entered a non-compete with Apple when they became involved with the iPhone. This explains why it's only in the US and it further explains why other Android handset makers are enabling the functionality themselves. Any phone that Google has direct first party involvement in will probably not include multi-touch until that deal expires. Just a guess though]]>Jan 8th 2010 10:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
You have proof of this or just talking out your ass..]]>Jan 8th 2010 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/There is a difference between taking an educated guess, and talking out of your ass. He even said it was just a guess, if he had said it with absolute certainty then you could say that..]]>Jan 8th 2010 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
Now cut through the technical talk and legalese and come to a conclusion. I think Nilay is far more qualified to make that call. Once again, I'll take his word over a commenter.]]>Jan 10th 2010 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/For some reason, I feel like they have the ability to do it, but some US only patent is stopping them. Anybody else gets the same feeling?]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
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I would really like Engadget's outlook on this. I have seen Nelay patel doing some good patent reviews earlier, probably he should come up and explain that what is there in the patent that is stopping Google from getting this in US.]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
And the truth leaks out... and proves that we were right all along....

http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2010/03/09/apple-talks-tough-to-handset-makers/]]>Mar 11th 2010 2:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
Oh, Andy, Oh Andy, when will those [multi-touch gestures] reappear
Andy, Andy what will you give us from here?
With no pinch-zooming in our phones, we'll keep our money in our coats,
You can't say we're satisfied.
But Andy, Andy, you can't say you ever tried]]>Jan 8th 2010 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
Keep asking the tough questions!

What happens if google buys up a lot of Engadget ad space, though. That would be interesting to see...]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
Couldn't they have seen people were going to make fun of the whole "it's a superphone" thing? I mean if it was that's one thing but it's nowhere near being a superphone.

And now paying customer's can't even get tech support for this "superphone"? I'm hearing so many people are having problems that Goog's Nexus One support pages are down. Not good.

Andy Rubin sounds like an idiot. Blaming the multi-touch on HTC! Makes no sense whatsoever.

I think Google has royally fucked up this time. And I hate that. I really wanted them to do something that would have shook up the wireless industry. All they've done is show their competitors how not to do something.

It's going to be a long weekend in Mountain View.
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They mentioned this like 100 times already, They are NOT trying to compete with the iPhone with the N1, It's all about choice and personal preference.]]>Jan 8th 2010 10:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
It's not like Andy would bar multitouch because of his doesn't think it's cool. Why are you hinting towards that? Flamebait?]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
If you got a dumbphone i think it is normal to always use it with one hand, but when you have a computer that is also a phone you'll find yourself using it _often_ with two hands...
And this sounds a lot like "Nobody needs MMS", fanboy bullshit. If one person does not need a feature it doesn't mean nobody should use it!]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/Jan 8th 2010 9:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
You can keep your Pre and all 258 apps. I'll keep my free Navigation with Google Maps.]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/andy-rubin-on-multitouch-in-android-i-personally-dont-like-tw/
multi-touch isn't important apple only use it because they like to use flashy things that are practical. most people use smart phones with one hand and double-tapping or pressing a zoom button is way more practical and efficient than pinch and zoom. ]]>Jan 8th 2010 9:36PM