http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/ Engadget Comments for VIZIO CES concept designs show a future of ultrawidescreen, ultrathin & wireless HDTVs http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
Also, as far as ultrawidescreen: how wide is too wide for tv?]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
waiting for 360 to 1 myself...]]>Jan 9th 2010 12:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/Will attract too much attention; they may as well display "Please snatch me" on the LCD.

As for the TV, Im not sure what to think. Is there an abundance of content at that aspect? It seems we'll face the same stretch and zoom issues.]]>Jan 9th 2010 6:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
At this point, I'd be happy with a 32" LCD that's native 1080p. A 120hz LED display would be nice too, but anything is an upgrade over my Audiovox 1366x768 piece of shit that has probably the worst UI I've ever seen on a piece of technology.]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/Well i guess you must be a Kmart shopper.]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
As for me, I wouldn;t mind a model that doesn't even have a tuner, let alone widgets if it saves me cash.]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
When people are happy with their current display they've got no reason to upgrade so the consumer electronics industry is desperately grasping at straws trying to come up with a new way to sell people televisions. This is coming primarily in the form of 3D but also with wireless televisions, internet ready televisions and various other things which aren't very compelling. Few people seem interested in these sorts of gimmicks and if they really want to sell more televisions they're going to have to get OLED out on the market since that provides a genuine improvement that people would pay for.]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/Jan 8th 2010 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/The point is to get rid of the bars while watching movies. At least you will get to use every inch of real-estate with these while watching a movie. These tvs are more geared to people who watch movies then regular tv.]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/Jan 8th 2010 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/21:9 is the aspect ratio that cinematic movies are filmed in. There will no longer be a need for that "this film has been changed from its original version. It has been modified to fit your screen" statement on videos anymore.]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
*sigh* you guys aren't getting the point. movies shouldn't be shot in 21:9 in the first place. they should be shot in 16:9.]]>Jan 9th 2010 12:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/Jan 9th 2010 4:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
Yeah, and ruin the whole experience of immersive cinema by removing cinemascope. Personally, one of the reasons I go to the cinema is to see films fully engorge those giant screens.]]>Jan 9th 2010 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
Plus, even if the 16:9 aspect ratio is more comparable to human vision (which is difficult to define anyway seeing as the retina is not a rectangle) that doesn't mean its better. Perhaps half of the experience of seeing movies is that you have to actively adjust your line of sight to take in the detail in the picture.

When I saw the Dark Knight in IMAX I certainly couldn't take in all the detail of the image, the screen was too big, but it made me feel like I was inside the picture and that was what made the experience so great. Common sense dictates that image size should be comparable to what the human field of vision can detect in a fixed position, but that is not necessarily true for the experience.]]>Jan 9th 2010 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
*sigh* how is this so hard to understand?

aspect ratio has nothing to do with how big the screen is, or even the field of view in the film (which depends on lense angle used to record, etc). you could have a 21:9 aspect ratio 2" screen, or a 1:1 50' screen. if you want the image to be that big in the width, but it should be correspondingly taller also, to shoot your little IMAX point out of the sky: standard IMAX screens have an aspect ratio of 12.2:9, much less than 16:9.]]>Jan 9th 2010 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/Jan 8th 2010 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
And frankly I'm sick of the industry "STANDARDS" changing every 2 years! It's not a standard if it CHANGES all the time.

(Dam I'm getting old)]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/I just want to add that the XVT line of LED tvs were supposed to be out soon after CES 09 and kept getting pushed back. Latest I heard was March release date.]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
What do you mean the standard is changed every 2 years? My first 16:9 TV was a Toshiba I purchased way back in 1994. The 16:9 TV, at the time, have been around for at leasy about 4 years. Therefore in total, 16:9 TV have been around for the last 20 years!
]]>Jan 9th 2010 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/Jan 8th 2010 11:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
Exactly, this is useless without 21:9 source material that doesn't exist, and probably never will.]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/what? All it takes is a movie with an aspect ratio of 2.35:1 or 2.40:1, and the screen would be perfect. I'd guess at least half of all movies made in the last 30-40 years have this aspect ratio. ]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
If the video file was viewed directly than it is technically squashed in aspect ratio, so BD players would have to stretch it to the appropriate aspect ratio. My guess is they wanted to avoid having players do that though, so they opted for a square pixel aspect ratio for Blu-rays.]]>Jan 9th 2010 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
Surely it couldn't be much more effort to encode a film on Blu-ray at in its original aspect ratio? Maybe companies could start putting both on a disc so you have the option depending on your setup.]]>Jan 9th 2010 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
It would require a revision to the spec. The BDA would either have to allow anamorphic encoding like DVDs have, or include support for a new resolution: 2538x1080, perhaps called "1080p CinemaScope" in marketing parlance to help average consumers differentiate. The latter option would be preferable because you get more resolution than an anamorphic encode, which sacrifies some horizontal resolution to maximize vertical resolution (which is the lesser of two evils since human eyes are more sensitive to vertical resolution). But yes I'm hoping that one way or another this happens and BDs start saying "Optimized for 21x9 TVs" the way current DVDs say "Optimized for 16x9 TVs".]]>Jan 9th 2010 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/

Seems like they released these wide screens (even though they knew they weren't wide enough to completely show a movie w/o black bars) just to sell us a wider screen later.
]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/Personally, that ratio is just too wide for a tv. It works well in a movie theater where the screen is that much bigger. ]]>Jan 8th 2010 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
16:9 TVs have been around for a very long time during the curved CRT days (before CRT had flat surface). It was impossible at the time to make a 21:9 screen using CRT without making it look more like a third of a ball.]]>Jan 12th 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/But I guess I understand the disappointment when your normal TV shows fill up more of your screen then movies, but when has it not been that way?]]>Jan 9th 2010 1:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/Jan 9th 2010 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/Jan 9th 2010 1:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/Jan 9th 2010 7:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
Philips has had a 21:9 TV for over a year now!]]>Jan 9th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
To get the immersive experience, any movie should be watched no further away than 2x the image height. If you're watching any movie further away than that, you won't get the full experience.]]>Jan 9th 2010 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/vizio-ces-concept-designs-show-a-future-of-ultrawidescreen-ultr/
With Pioneer Kuro you don't really need 21:9 because the black bars are just that... black so you don't see the bars.]]>Jan 9th 2010 2:51PM