http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/ Engadget Comments for Japan gets Torne PS3 DTV DVR adapter in May, all is right with the world http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/
Well Europe has been taken care of and so has Japan, so I wonder who is left?]]>Jan 14th 2010 7:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/
::::hanging head low:::: I hope ours is cablecard ready when it comes to the States. We never get good sidekicks for our PS3. It can't be that hard Sony! ::::kicking rocks down the street::::]]>Jan 14th 2010 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/
I love my PlayTV tuner, but it doesn't like the Danish MPEG-4 (HD) channels - and it's only for Freeview.
]]>Jan 14th 2010 8:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/
It's not that we live in the U.S. It's all Sony. Overpromise, underdeliver. See: PlayStation 2 HDD, GPS on PSP, mylo, and the list goes on...]]>Jan 14th 2010 8:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/(i know netflix is avaliable on ps3 but only after ms beat them 2 it)

C'mon Sont be a leader not a follower.]]>Jan 14th 2010 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/
South America at this rate will get it years before we do.]]>Jan 15th 2010 3:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 15th 2010 3:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 15th 2010 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/
though the thing looks cool anyways... maybe sometime in 2011 we will get it. ]]>Jan 14th 2010 8:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Not to mention no streaming netflix on PS3, Xbox or blu-ray players. I have IPTV such a device would not be much use to me either.]]>Jan 14th 2010 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/
Still a great machine but more USB would be handy.]]>Jan 14th 2010 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/
Speculating that ours will probably have an extra usb built in. We can't keep pluging in and unplugging stuff, it will wear the ports out way too fast. ]]>Jan 14th 2010 8:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/
With $20, you can get a hub for 3 adicional usb ports.

http://www.amazon.com/PS3-Media-Hub-Playstation-3/dp/B001BSA5Z0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1263475645&sr=1-2]]>Jan 14th 2010 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/north america (US and canada), and japan is using ASTC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Digital_broadcast_standards.svg

playtv will make your tivo obsolete...




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The only significant difference in price with the extender model, at least in regards to Cable TV, is that you need a PC running Windows 7. Of course whatever price you pay for a low end Win7 PC would probably be cheaper than what it would cost to get MS to sell you a 500GB HDD you would need for recordings on for the Xbox360.]]>Jan 14th 2010 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/
First off, if the PS3 is recording something, it's going to be too busy to do what it was originally designed to do - play my games, or at the very least, my movies. One of the reasons I started using a Tivo 10 years ago was because it let me play games or watch a DVD without having to miss my shows. Convergence may be nifty to think about, but that doesn't mean you can shove any 2 devices together and expect the result to be equally nifty - or cost effective.

Second, even if you upgrade the PS3's hard drive yourself, you're only looking at 500GB of internal storage. Even if this thing supports external hard drives for transferring shows and watching them (similar to DishNetwork's DVRs) that's still a lot of extra cash to do something most of us just pay $5 or $10/month for, up to 1TB available, depending on the DVR.

Third is the tuner problem. CableCard is available, sort of, but satellite folks are still left out in the cold here. So unless this is only going to be used to record OTA and plain old unencrypted analog cable (assuming that even still exists) you're looking at an even more convoluted setup of trying to get your tuner box to work with this thing.

I know a lot of folks here balk at the idea of renting something they feel they should be able to build and own, but honestly, I don't see the logic. With my provider, I'm paying $5/mo for DVR service. They own the DVR hardware. If it breaks - as mine did recently - they replace it, free. I'm also eligible for a free hardware upgrade every 2 years. Yeah, I'll never own the hardware, and if I switch providers, I'll have to give it back and go with the new provider's solution. But even at $10/mo, I really don't see how I can buy or build another solution that would be equally effective, and more importantly, cheaper in the long run WITHOUT becoming hopelessly outdated.

Example: I could either spend $1500 building a HTPC setup, or spend $10/mo for a DVR from my provider. If I go with the HTPC, it will have function more than a decade without any changes other than just software upgrades for it to become more cost-effective than having rented a DVR for those past 10 years. Remember, this means no new hard drives to replace broken ones, or even just increase my storage capacity, no new CPU or memory to increase performance - doing so would only increase the amount of money I've put into my HTPC, and also increase how many years it would take for my investment to overtake renting a DVR. How many pieces of hardware do you own are still heavily used after 10 solid years of use?]]>Jan 14th 2010 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/I'll talk on situations in Japanese;
>First off, if the PS3 is recording something, it's going to be too busy
Not exactly. Torne lets you do everything(except PS2 game emulations) while recording. PS3 is a multi-
core computer with 2 PowerPCs and some SIMD accelerator. Plus, the Japanese DTV standard, ISDB-T, uses
MPEG2-TS so there's virtually no need of CPU power for recording.

>that's still a lot of extra cash to do something most of us just pay $5 or $10/month for, up to 1TB available,
>depending on the DVR.
That doesn't apply to Japanese market. I've never heard of a service like that in Japan.

>CableCard is available, sort of, but satellite folks are still left out in the cold here.
For all of free channels and some of paid satellite channels we have some hardware to record them DRM-free so at
least we do have a fire outside :)

I know that most of all I'm saying doesn't apply to USA...]]>Jan 15th 2010 2:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/...
Okay, rant. But a DVR adaptor for the PS3 would be LOVE. Seriously. *doesn't have a DVR, never had one* xD ]]>Jan 14th 2010 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/Jan 14th 2010 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/If not, it will pay with more market loss which started when the 1Seg PSP tuner did not worked in Brazil as the 2006 new standard started. ]]>Jan 14th 2010 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/
I was going to get a Play TV, but decided against it when I discovered that it doesn't have RF pass-through. As I live in an apartment building, I don't have a strong enough signal to split it.

Why Sony released Play TV without RF pass-through is ridiculous and baffling to me.]]>Jan 14th 2010 9:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/I really want that new Sony TV with Wi-Fi ...
I hate cables ..!
It's perfect to connect vaio laptop or ps3 via Wi-Fi straight to Big Screen ..]]>Jan 15th 2010 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/japan-gets-torne-ps3-dtv-dvr-adapter-in-may-all-is-right-with-t/My UK PlayTV box records the freeview TV MPEG2 stream as .m2ts files, the file sizes vary greatly depending on the channel. You have to keep an eye on it, as anything bigger than 4GB can't be copied onto USB drives. I upgraded my PS3s HDD to 320GB and the old 80GB HDD now resides in an 2.5" enclosure, still in use as a backup drive.

You can play the files in VLC, or convert to MP4 with Handbrake. Very useful as using the ffmpeg codec encodes very quickly for my ipod classic.]]>Jan 23rd 2010 9:29PM