http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/ Engadget Comments for Next-gen dashboards get Tegra 2, Moblin, Atom, we go hands-on http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/"How long before you can get an app for that!!!!"

Fixed!]]>Jan 14th 2010 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
If my car uses a traditional metal key or even a wireless key, I must be standing next to or very close (a few dozen feet) of my car to unlock it. If it is unlockable from the internet, then anyone anywhere in the world can hack my car and lock/unlock it. While being to remotely lock my car if it is stolen would be nice, it can still be abused.]]>Jan 14th 2010 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
"How long before you can get an hack for that!!!!"

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Today's lesson in reading comphresion, order of events

Articles implies about an app that let's you unlock your car via internet
Reader inquires how long before there will be an exploit for said app]]>Jan 14th 2010 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
Overall, I think some hacker hundreds of miles away unlocking your car is preferred over some idiot breaking your window, hearing the alarm, and running.]]>Jan 14th 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
Couldn't have said it better - there is always a hack concern. Besides this "unlock via internet" technology just seems absolutely pointless.

@Smurf

Well, let's see - first of all, keys with transponders usually range about $100-400 - (my Volvo was $150 for an extra spare), so you are WAY over exaggerating. This is also assuming you lose BOTH sets of keys they give you with the car (I don't even understand how people lose their car keys in the first place). I would MUCH rather fork over a couple hundred for a new key than have an added risk of having my car getting broken into at ANY point in time. Frankly, I think the idea is just beyond stupid. It's another unnecessary vulnerability, but the average fool will think it's a convenience.

AND, before you try and get on the defense about locking keys in cars - it's pretty hard to manage to lock your keys in your car nowadays, especially since most people rely on the remote fob, and also since most keys have transponders that work with the car to prevent this.]]>Jan 14th 2010 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
I do agree with you, except one point - if you actually lose one key, you'll probably want to get both keys replaced, and your vehicle rekeyed. The reason is that if someone else has your key and knows your car, then the fact you have a second key may allow you to access your vehicle, but it'll also allow them to do so without raising suspicion from bystanders.

Sort of like when you lose your house keys - you'd want to get all your exterior doors completely re-keyed, rather than just getting a replacement key.]]>Jan 14th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
Okay, I do agree that obviously it's not easy to "hack" anything.

But, the concern isn't that the person will be able to steal the car, it's that they'll have access to what's inside - which can range from laptops, to prime documentation for identity theft, access to under the hood (stolen engine components), and all the other glorious expensive stuff that can be stolen out of cars.

Add to this the fact that a prime hacker with the right skills can grab a laptop and go car hunting, most likely with only a few minor details about your car. All they would have to do is peek in your car, see if there's anything they want, get the VIN and maybe bullshit some other info and use the laptop with a WiFi network for the rest. All, within a few feet of your car. Hell, they'll be looking right at what it is they want inside of your car.

No, it wouldn't be easy by any means. And, no, the 13 year old techie next door won't be able to pull it off... but SOMEONE will, and they won't be across the country either. The point here is that it is an unnecessary vulnerability. ]]>Jan 14th 2010 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Fair enough. And I agree, unnecessary for sure. ]]>Jan 14th 2010 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/>>... is that so hard?

and don't give me that sobby story... what if the computer gets fried, then how will you know whats happening? seriously, when does that happen, and if it does, its toast...

sense I'm dreaming here, I also want the ENTIRE dash to be one 4' touchscreen and all customizable as in I can photoshop what my dash looks like, and render my own gages and do it "MyFord?" way... and then I want to be able to have the sound system pick up the rev's from the engine and be able to make my car sound like its shifting a indy car, or golfcart, or Harley ... or even a helicopter if I want... shouldn't be hard here... ]]>Jan 15th 2010 3:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
oh snap! Got'em!]]>Jan 15th 2010 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/actually the technical term is "RoboCop"]]>Jan 14th 2010 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/I don't know, I'm pretty sure it's Robert Cop.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2173/2193788417_26a5a84ac4.jpg?v=0]]>Jan 14th 2010 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Fact: RoboCop Drove a Ford Taurus!]]>Jan 14th 2010 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
Yeah, as if cell phones aren't bad enough, it's like they're going out of their way to create more ways to distract people while driving. And this comes just when there's starting to be some momentum behind getting the message across that talking on the phone (hands free or not) is never safe.

Isn't it funny that cars get safer and safer (more types of airbags, better and better breaks, traction control) and yet the number of fatalities in cars never goes down (about 40,000 per year in the U.S.)? There was just a study that said one in four accidents are now caused by people talking on the cell phone. I guess we as a culture just like accidents and inventing ways to get into them. They should just give all these new dashboard inventors the Darwin Award.]]>Jan 15th 2010 6:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
http://www.nhtsa.gov/portal/site/nhtsa/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.f2217bee37fb302f6d7c121046108a0c/?javax.portlet.tpst=1e51531b2220b0f8ea14201046108a0c_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_1e51531b2220b0f8ea14201046108a0c_viewID=detail_view&itemID=a3a53fb7d1e50210VgnVCM1000002fd17898RCRD&pressReleaseYearSelect=2009

It is funny, isn't it?]]>Jan 15th 2010 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
http://www.nhtsa.gov/portal/site/nhtsa/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.f2217bee37fb302f6d7c121046108a0c/?javax.portlet.tpst=1e51531b2220b0f8ea14201046108a0c_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_1e51531b2220b0f8ea14201046108a0c_viewID=detail_view&itemID=a3a53fb7d1e50210VgnVCM1000002fd17898RCRD&pressReleaseYearSelect=2009

Very funny indeed...]]>Jan 15th 2010 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 3:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
Even that is probably really optimistic, especially depending on the brand. Configuring a new BMW is pretty depressing with the ridiculous prices that BMW charges for even basic options. ]]>Jan 14th 2010 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
Since when has necessity been the determinant for whether something is marketed in this country? Most CARS are unnecessary if all you want is a vehicle that will get you from one place to the other, and actually come to think of it most things that Americans buy are unnecsesary, or at least have versions that are unnecessarily extravagant. Some people enjoy having luxuries like those described here, while others only want the basics. Hence a variety of models and option packages.]]>Jan 15th 2010 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
I sure hope ford does not install the Sony timer on their Sony branded dashboards. ]]>Jan 15th 2010 3:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
Every vehicle has a VIN number, and if registered, has a license plate number unique to the state of registration. Hopefully the driver will have the option to disable the internet radio if he wishes, like you can with most internet capable cellphones.]]>Jan 14th 2010 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Who's up for Brinner?]]>Jan 14th 2010 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/]]>Jan 14th 2010 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
2 Hackers will have the same problems getting into a car as someone walking down the street trying to break in with nothing but there elbow. I know this cause my friends car got broken into within 30 minutes of a stop by a friends house. GPS iPod and radio gone. And someone walking down the street with a computer in hand walking along cars would look very suspicious.

3 do you look at these controls while driving? How is this different from talking on your phone. At least when I talk on my phone I dont take my eyes off the road.

4 For safety they should have some of those controls lock once the car leaves park. Not everything should be accessible while in drive.]]>Jan 14th 2010 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/You semi-joke about people reading while driving.. I've seen people reading a novel at night, using both hands to hold the book open and a flashlight to light it.. barely glancing up every few seconds. Going 65+ on the I5. ]]>Jan 14th 2010 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
Yeah those people can go ahead and find that cliff]]>Jan 14th 2010 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
Unlocking via the internet? Yeah, I'm not exposing my car to a billion untrusted users, bots, and who knows what else.

]]>Jan 14th 2010 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/Jan 14th 2010 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
Oh.. and a "pleasure" function would be pretty cool too. ]]>Jan 14th 2010 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/14/next-gen-dashboards-get-tegra-2-moblin-atom-we-go-hands-on/
Have these people ever used a modern smartphone, or video game console? 7 fps for ANYTHING is completely unacceptable.

The Ford system seemed the best by far, but I wish they'd model their UI to be more like what we are used to with touch screen maps on our phones.

I have a 08 Jeep with the Mygig system, and the touch screen interface is just disgustingly bad.]]>Jan 14th 2010 8:31PM