http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
Hey man, can't Obama do something about this...?]]>Jan 15th 2010 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
Obama's to concerned with healthcare to solve the issues we care about...]]>Jan 15th 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
now if they decide to skip netflix all together or set the prices soaring high, that will be lame]]>Jan 15th 2010 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
very lame]]>Jan 15th 2010 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 16th 2010 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 16th 2010 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Disney = EVIL.

Sleeping beauty was a ho.]]>Jan 16th 2010 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
It's back to torrents with everyone if this crap keeps up. Screw you, Disney. ]]>Jan 15th 2010 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
The closest thing that'll allow users and content holders to meet in the middle without no one stealing and the studios want to shoot themselves in the foot.]]>Jan 15th 2010 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 10:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
Stealing is when you deprive something of the physical good that they own, such that they are no longer in possession of it.

What you're describing is copying, and copying an item you do not have permission from the copyright owner for is copyright infringement.

Of course, it should be seen as no small irony that the same company responsible for extending the length of copyright to an absurd length of time is also one of the companies being mentioned in this article...and I'm not talking about Netflix or Starz...]]>Jan 16th 2010 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
Well, most of Disney's product had copyrights that "morally" expired after 52 years -- those were the rules when they were created. Fantasia, for example, should have been free to everyone in 1992. That was the deal and that was the law in 1940.

Instead, Disney bribed Congressmen to take from the public domain and give to Disney, changing the length to 75 years. Then that was a problem and they made it 95 years. Want to bet they do it again soon?

So, morally, who stole?]]>Jan 16th 2010 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 16th 2010 6:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/I am not a thief.]]>Jan 15th 2010 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
If negotiating direct with Disney brings me these movies in HD, then I'm all for it.]]>Jan 16th 2010 12:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
Amen, screw Disney for doing this.]]>Jan 15th 2010 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!]]>Jan 15th 2010 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Agreed... that is the worst. I PURCHASE a physical media disc from Disney Studios and I'm not able to skip the previews. Do you know what the previews on the Toy Story 1 disc are for?? Stuff that's way old and not even relevant anymore.

If I purchase the disc I should be able to skip the previews if I wish.]]>Jan 15th 2010 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
Thata what backup copies are for. Plus you can scratch 'em and just copy again. ]]>Jan 16th 2010 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 19th 2010 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
Disney puts pressure on Starz that Starz has to be more restrictive with Netflix if Starz wants to keep getting content from Disney.]]>Jan 15th 2010 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
In which case, did Starz/Disney pull a Mike Arrington/Crunchpad and not sign a contract? Because if that isn't the case and there is a contractual deal and not a gentleman's agreement, couldn't Starz just sue Disney and tell them to "get in line"? Needless to say either I'm just not understanding the story as a whole, or I don't understand how this is working.]]>Jan 15th 2010 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
Unfortunately they are missing that this is an opportunity to cash in and prevent piracy. 60 cents or w/e is more revenue than they'll make from a pirated copy. Also that royalty they can earn with every viewing so I don't get it either...

I suspect Disney will hammer out a deal with Netflix on their own they don't seem quite as out of touch with reality as other entertainment companies.]]>Jan 15th 2010 9:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
iTunes was Mac-centric at the start, but it while you could play the music on your computer, it was designed to allow the content to pour into your iPod. Disney may simply be pulling out to send people toward something more in line with their longer term revenue streams. Remember they have that cool digital locker system (buy once/play everywhere) they want to roll out too. Would make these who get's to play what when deals superfluous as well.]]>Jan 15th 2010 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
conspiracy much?]]>Jan 15th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
I give up... Who IS Disney's largest stockholder??

Oh, it's Fidelity Investments with almost 95 million shares.
Who's number 2? Barclay's Global with 69 million shares.

Then: State Street, Vanguard Group, Southeastern Asset Mgmt, and State Farm...

Apple is no where on that list... not even in the top 10. So, what exactly was your point, again?]]>Jan 15th 2010 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=dis
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Sorry... private stockholder.]]>Jan 15th 2010 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
yup. More fun in the wastelands dreaming up conspiracies.]]>Jan 15th 2010 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
There is no such thing as a "Private stockholder" in the sense that you're trying to use it. If you own THAT much of a publicly traded company it is documented and scrutinized by the SEC. It becomes public data that you own X shares in X company.

In fact, DUMMY, the top five "private stockholders" are listed on that same page I linked to earlier:

Robert Iger: 775K shares
Robert Staggs: 225k shares
Alan Braverman: 163k shares

It's all publicly available information. You're just a dummy.]]>Jan 15th 2010 8:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Maybe you should look closer at the list you posted, "DUMMY".
It only shows the top institutional, the top mutual fund holders, and top direct holders from form 3 and 4, as in shareholders who work IN the company.
Steve Jobs is only on the Board of Directors, but has 138 million shares, after trading in his 60 million Pixar shares, which is about 7% of Disney.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/06/05/09/jobs_stake_in_disney_valued_at_4b.html
You'll also notice the list you pointed to does not include Michael Eisner, even though he has 1.7% of the company because he's no longer working there. DUMMY.]]>Jan 15th 2010 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
You're absolutely right. I was looking for Apple, not Steve Jobs. To the original poster, I apologize - clearly it's me that is wrong on this one.

Having said that, I'm still doubtful that Jobs' 7.4% stake in DIS is enough to suspect conspiracies - it's hardly as if he has a controlling interest in the company.]]>Jan 15th 2010 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
Wow... an apology on a tech site. Accepted.]]>Jan 15th 2010 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/
I was having a horrible day arguing with people about religion all day... it leaked over.]]>Jan 17th 2010 5:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Come to think of it, we should blame Reed Hastings (Netflix CEO) for saying 3+ times in the video with Fils-Aime how "for only $9 dollars a month you can watch as many movies as you want..."
Let's imagine some executive screaming, "HEY, that's a lot of potential revenue getting watched for only 9 bucks a month!"

Way to go, Reedy boy. Your salesmanship is killin' us!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/reggie-fils-aime-wii-users-dont-care-for-netflix-hd/]]>Jan 15th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/Jan 15th 2010 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix/netflix has > 100,000 titles to watch
Let me know how buying them all goes.]]>Jan 15th 2010 6:42PM