http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/ Engadget Comments for Two new patents show Apple getting into the energy tracking game, killing power bricks http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
Surely you jest. ]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
I'm under cardiac arrest, shawty.]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
A tablet hasn't been used that much or we (as the users) is not that familiar with. Unlike the iPhone and iPod, it became a big BOOM! because we are already honed by it. Let's just see how this one plays out.

January 27 will be like a D day for tablet -- along with some beta testing iPhone OS 4.0 SDK goodies. Apple Tablet Details: http://bit.ly/islate-specs-hoax-and-official-details
]]>Jan 18th 2010 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
I also help out with a home automation project (Zigbee based) so I am well aware of the efficiency with off peak charging. If this plug type can be incorporated in more of a commercial application, then we might have a winner. ]]>Jan 18th 2010 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Apple who just recently raised itself to _mediocre_ company in Greenpeaces annual report... And before that Apple had been grabbing last places with Nintendo for years and years...

Eco-minded choice my ass. Perhaps you meant ego-minded? Honestly, if someone thinks that Apple is somehow ecological choice then I'm probably master between the sheets and Charlie Sheen is my ho.

So let's play bullshit bingo with this article: BULLSHIT!]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
Wow, Apple tries to use a tech to help make itself even greener than it already is (awards signify that it's pretty damn green compared to others) and you attack Apple with your useless lies and propaganda.

As for Master between the sheets, yes Elton John said you was a great last night.

Nice try though, but the people who try hardest usually fail the hardest.]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/how-the-companies-line-up

I win, you lose and Engadget fails.]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
Both Apple and Nintendo where getting bottom dibs on GreenPeace's bullshit scale because they refused to give them all the figures they asked for. So they just slapped them at the bottom with no real figures to show that they deserver to be there.

All the top spots on that hypocritical scale have been paid for. The level of Hypocrisy GreanPeace demonstrate with that scale should sicken any environmental and socially 'responsible' individual.

As for Apple being green. They make computers...its almost impossible to be genuinely green and turn the profits any business would want. I DO however see them making points of their 'green-ness' much more often than any other computer manufacture. That doesn't necessarily make them greener than everyone else but it certainly shows they are either trying or trying to make you think they are trying.]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Talk is cheap, show us the evidence of foul play.

And I don't know who is truly green and who is not. But I'm damn sure that Apple is not Greenpeaces "favored child". Either Apple should not be "choice of platform for eco-minded". And Sony / Toshiba / etc. are pretty much on the same level as Apple is, so enough with this "much more than any other computer manufacturer" BS.

Apple might get much more media time / hype because of their work towards "green products" but that doesn't change the facts.]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/You fail with typos.]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
Hobsie is correct, Nintendo is probably the greenest company of all, but because they never revealed information they were placed at the bottom. There are several articles detailing these reports, and a few recent ones.

Greenpeace all in all is really a joke. They make threats at companies who don't comply and will slander against those companies, much like they did with Apple. Then Apple finally started giving them information about what materials they used. Apple has been using highly recyclable metals for notebook enclosures for years as well as plastics that are easily recyclable.

I can understand you wanting to believe an agency that gives false information to influence companies over the companies themselves. I mean there has to be sheep in every flock. But if you look at the awards Apple has received, E PEAT, then you will notice that their products are very green, and if you have ever used one you will also notice that they are very energy efficient, and require fewer charges than other laptops with the same specs.

So go forth my young sheep, explore the world without someone to hold your hand and tell you everything, and do avoid cliffs. Those of you with little mind have a tendency to jump.

And again, better luck next time.]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/oh god you are such a hypocrite.
Apple has done more for the environment (economically) than you can ever afford. Why don't you attempt building a "Perfect" computer that abides by all the tree hugger rules... i bet you cant without someone sh*ving a complaint in your eco-friendly ass where you so happen to like it.
Apple has by far demonstrated it's patience and environmental friendly act without any bribes.]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
Now. I am 100% you can't afford Apple products, hence the reason you are so bitter.]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
I can afford Apple products and I still don't like then, but even if I coudn't, I can still raise a genuine flaw in their marketing/product without getting hounded by you cocky bastards.]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
The problem is, there's a group of people who don't like Apple products, are never gonna buy Apple products that spend their WHOLE FUCKING LIVES complaining about Apple products.

]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
Clearly you're living in a different world from the rest of us. Locked in software? wtf does that even mean? You can install whatever OS you want on a Mac and therefore any software you want...Poor quality? I bought my first ever mac last year (1st gen Uni-Body MacBook Pro) and its been the highest quality built machine I've ever bought (certainly not the most expensive computer I've bought either). In fact the build quality astounds me to this day.

A history of being destructive to the planet? That's just the history of making computers period. The proprietary non-sence is something I believed before I got my first Mac as well, its just not true - My Mbp uses standardised DDR3 RAM, a core2duo found in many laptops and a 9600GTM also found in many laptops, a standard laptop HD...so probably all in all about the same number of proprietary components as that found in any laptop really...

Anyway that aside, I did also notice when i got my MBP that it draws less power than the Dell m1550 (with a 8600GTM) I had for work bought about 2 months before the release of the Unibody MBP's. I imagine laptops have certainly caught up on Apple now (the changes to this generation of Macbooks seems small) but the fact they led the way with such a large number of 'environmentally' friendly upgrades speaks volumes to me.]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
You need a dictionary to read the definitions of some of the words you used to describe the whole Mac like. Cause you are just plugging in some generically tossed around words from previous arguments. Locked hardware? No you aren't locked, you have a choice, you can either buy the specified Apple products available at the time, or you can buy a PC. No one is forcing you to buy it. You are not locked to any hardware. Locked software? You can runs Windows on your Mac, you can run Linux, you can run OS X. Where is the part about it being locked?

Proprietary all the way? They only use standards that are either popular or are becoming popular and include them. Mini DisplayPort is one of them, and FireWire was the other. And everyone who used computers when FireWire and USB first hit the scene knows FireWire was the best option as far as data transfers. Just the majority used USB, probably cause it was cheaper.

@WickedEast

The battery IS replaceable. They just eliminated the latch mechanism and the "easy to remove" cover from the bottom to increase room for a larger battery to power the notebook longer. I really don't understand all this whining about something as simple as a battery being removable. I have had my laptop for a few years and have never had to remove it's battery a single time.

]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
I like Apple's Pmp line and own a touch, but my beef with Apple is how they chain you to them through hardware, how overpriced their stuff, the annoying fanboys (who spend their whole lives praising Steve Jobs as the second coming) and the unwarranted media attention they get.]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
I'm assuming ur talking about ipods/phones? since Apple laptops all have replaceable batteries?]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
It's clear you really haven't used an Apple computer. That much is obvious. I really don't know why you are trying to bash their products, Maybe it helps you justify your past purchases that weren't Apple products. I for one own Macs, Dells, HPs, a few custom built PCs, a custom built server, that runs Linux, I do use an iPhone cause I think it's the best overall phone on the market, and I do have a few gripes about it, but otherwise I am happy.

But this senseless and mindless bashing of the products really shows that you are nothing more than a troll. Let's start at the beginning again, and do try to stay with me.

When you buy a Mac it comes with OS X, that OS was designed for that computer, that specific hardware. If OS X is capable of being installed on something like an HP Mini it's just coincidence and hackery that makes it work. It was never designed for that. As for why would a business buy hardware from a single vendor, and do forgive me for laughing a little, but it's because large companies sign contracts to provide hardware and work out deals. It's common place. You don't think Dell shot up over night because of Consumers do you? It's cause they had/have contracts with companies and the government to supply hardware.

Now, you taking shots at the Mac Pro really cracks me up, cause you are one of those people who would compare it to a Core i7 Dell PC that you buy for your Home Business, when you forget it has 2 processors, which are Xeons. A Server grade board, server grade memory and other workstation/server grade components that make your little Home Office PC look like a coke can running Linux.

Poor quality, this one really has me a bit miffed. Again, I don't think you have ever used one. You would have to buy a Dell Adamo or an HP Envy to get the same sort of build quality, which once you get to that sort of end of the market or higher priced and cost equally the same as a Mac, if not more (notebooks).

As for your scratched METAL backed iPod Touch, who cares, my iPhone's housing is scratched, it gives the device character. You honestly didn't expect a chrome surface not to scratch did you?

Yes I guess you are paying for a Logo, and the engineering and materials that make the devices that a small percentage carry, that is increasing yearly because of consumer awareness of the brand. I really don't think you understand that the materials being used are high grade materials. When you get a better understanding on the materials and components and the engineering behind one of Apple's devices come back and talk, till then go troll someone's jock. Everyone here loves gadgets, I really don't understand you guys coming here to bash a company for putting out great products.

Now accuse me of being a fanboy and you'll be ok. Even if I'm not, you'll feel better about yourself though if you do.]]>Jan 18th 2010 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
It is just like Starbucks. I can't tell you how many environmentalists I know guzzle coffee like no tomorrow. In reality coffee is one of the most environmentally damaging products you can use. Those rainforest's aren't being deforested for paper, or grocery bags. They are being cleared to make farmland for coffee. The more demand for coffee the fewer rainforests, shade grown eco-friendly coffee or not. ]]>Jan 18th 2010 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
"Apple doesn't cut deals with businesses because no business with any sense bases it around propriatary garbage. Apple sells computers to hipster dorks that use it like jewelry to impress people, enterprise and business don't use their products."

CNBC upgraded their graphics department with all Apple hardware, servers and all. How does that foot taste?

"There is nothing server grade about the Mac Pro. The motherboard is a foxconn motherboard found in many dell and hp desktop computers (I said desktop not workstation). Xeon is overpriced and has no performance advantage over Core i7 or a Core 2 Quad Extreme, in fact it underperforms."

The motherboard IS a server motherboard, that's why it has Dual Sockets and supports ECC memory. It's not the same motherboard found in desktops, it's far from it. Go get an education about computer components.

The Xeon processor is more capable of handling loads than the i7. That's why it's a server chip, and the Xeon is an i7 processor itself.

"haahah funny stuff. YOu mean you have to OVERPAY for a adamo or envy to feel like you get the same for an equally overpriced macbook. Any laptop priced around $1000 has equal if not better quality than any of apples machines, machines with alumnium, magnesium, led screens are a dime a dozen."

List me 5, with links of Aluminium Body notebooks with LED screens. at $1000 or less.

Good luck.]]>Jan 18th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQByiz1DVOM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlWnv4-H0W0

and I'll give you the rest, I am tired of arguing with a moron.

Also, I have no idea what a beighttch is.]]>Jan 18th 2010 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Get the deep sleep widget, it works flawlessly and exactly like windows hibernate does.]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
I've actually found that my mbp lives longer sleeping than my Dell m1550 did in hibernate O_o

I've also found on EVERY windows machine I've ever tried that Hibernate is a complete gamble. Never know if the bugger is going to wake up...I know plenty of people have had that same issue seems very common. Its very annoying :(]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/You are incredibly uneducated and/or listen to Rush Limbaugh. 50% of the solution to future energy demands lies reducing energy consumption and making energy usage more efficient.

But I guess you don't like the savings that your Energy Star Compliant furnace, a/c, fridge , etc. I guess that stuff is just for a bunch of hippies. These sort of innovations are a win win for everyone, including you.]]>Jan 18th 2010 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
Although your points are valid people who want to make a greener world is a win/win solution for all of us, unfortunately Energy Star Compliant appliances also tend to bend the truth (with their restrictions being too easy).]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
Sorry, you're the uneducated one. 100% of the future energy demands relies in creating more energy. Had we (the US) not stopped building nuclear reactors in the late 70s there would be no brown/black outs, energy would be cheaper, and we wouldn't have moronic eco-idiots like yourself that are deluded into thinking "Green" anything is the future. The new solar farms in Florida will produce around 300 megawatts combined, while one nuclear power plant can produce over 1,200 megawatts and require less land that needs to be destroyed for it's construction. Currently, California has to import energy from neighboring States just to keep Engadgets lights on. Had they been building nuclear plants for the past 30 years they would be self sufficient and wouldn't have blackouts every year.
]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Oh I agree, they were only the start of the power sipping movement.]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Yep, that is Rush talking.]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/I don't really know about that since buying a new computer with enhanced power management instead of buying an old power hungry monster might just be a more eco-friendly decision to make.
]]>Jan 18th 2010 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
Yes and No, a friend and I deghosted our devices and managed things being on for a year to observe the difference, while obviously heating/cooling items use lots there is measurable savings in managing the rest. Not saying it would offset your a/c

I can forsee this sort of stuff being used from a marketing perspective comparing whole of cost. Eg: you buy a $1000 laptop or a $600 laptop but if the battery replacement cycle is twice as long and the cost to power is half as much then over the life of the unit the $1000 laptop will work out cheaper. Large companies buying lots of units for their worker ants measure this kind of stuff. ]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
http://www.jbdg.com/equipconsumptionsm.jpg]]>Jan 18th 2010 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
I agree with you that computers and servers eat a lot of energy in a commercial environment. I work for a large ISP and am aware of the electricity demand of large data centers. But I believe this is all referring to residential/home use. Not to bash on Apple, but they are a very small percentage of what is actually used in data centers and large offices.]]>Jan 18th 2010 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
What's more eco-friendly:

1. Having 1 phone for 2 years and using 1 battery
2. Having 1 phone for 2 years and using a number of batteries

Do you see? Do you know what eco-friendly means?]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
I think what you meant was:

What's more eco-friendly:

1- Replace the entire phone (including battery) after 2 years
2- Replace battery after 2 years.

Do you see?

C'mon, are you for real?]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
Oh yeah. You are right. Cos people would keep the same phone all their life if only they could replace the battery.

Learn logic, kid.]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/Jan 18th 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/two-new-patents-show-apple-getting-into-the-energy-tracking-game/
I'm curious how long did your last cell phone last.

Also if you wish to, you can actually change the battery in the iPhone, just go to an Apple Store.]]>Jan 18th 2010 11:59AM