http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/ Engadget Comments for CE-Oh no he didn't! Part LXVI: Acer founder predicts extinction of US PC makers within 20 years http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Jan 19th 2010 6:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Jan 19th 2010 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Jan 19th 2010 6:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
Did you even read the post? This has changed since last quarter I think:
1-HP
2-Acer
3-Dell]]>Jan 19th 2010 6:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
TVs, now computers? And we all *know* how Detroit's kept up with the times. And what's so bold about this guy's point? Still, he failed to talk about how our primary computing experience within 20 years will possibly have less to do with desktops, laptops, notebooks and netbooks.]]>Jan 19th 2010 6:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
Well, at least USA is number 1 in weapons manufacturing.
]]>Jan 19th 2010 7:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Jan 19th 2010 7:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Jan 19th 2010 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
lol. I meant Chunk, stupid spell check!]]>Jan 19th 2010 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/"Well, at least USA is number 1 in weapons manufacturing."

But the Chinese are still proving that cheaper (Kalishnikovs vs M16) is the way to go.

@ DaftTimo:
Ouch!]]>Jan 19th 2010 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/According to this article, he is right Hp #1, Dell #2. This is for Q4 of 09 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/13/tech/main6094632.shtml]]>Jan 19th 2010 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/I believe us is #1 is arm sale. Russia is second. China only make cheap Ak47 and other low tech weapons, Us on the other hand make planes and high tech weapons that they sell to our allies.]]>Jan 19th 2010 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
Really ? What have the British been buying cause we are all pretty broke over here and most of our cash was spent on Eurofighters.]]>Jan 19th 2010 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Jan 19th 2010 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
I assume for some odd reason you are excluding their latest 4th generation fighter Jet...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-10

modern domestically developed assault rifle...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QBZ-95

and top twelve in the world ranking main battle tank

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_99



China is very much a player on the world scene...



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That is proof they are planning on taking over Tibet, Tawian, and then the United States. Teach your children Mandarin or you will doom them to future 3rd world poverty.

I, for one, welcome our new Rulers from Beijing.
]]>Jan 19th 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/When the Soviet Empire collapsed, what good did their thousands of nukes do them? NOTHING idiot.

On another note, whether former chairman Stan Shih is right or wrong in his views, I think he was still foolish to have said what he did.

What good does his comments do except to rile up deep thinker like magallanes who's mom is washing his underwear right now?]]>Jan 19th 2010 7:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
for now.]]>Jan 20th 2010 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
That doesn't mean companies from the west disappear though, just even more outsourcing instead!]]>Jan 19th 2010 6:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
It is sad reality that few people in developed world actually understand why we can afford such living style. I can't help but call hypocritical all the critical statements in press about poor working conditions in China/etc...]]>Jan 19th 2010 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/That's very true, but once we get out of the recession, (hopefully no longer then 5 more years) people should have the money to buy a better computer that isn't a piece of garbage.

Sure Acer has a ton of cheap netbooks, and sure lots of folks are attracted to cheap things during the recession. But quality wise, ia an acer laptop or netbook, as good as a more expensive netbook, or laptop? Heavens no! Acer and Dell all use crappy components for the laptops, in fact most companies are starting to do that. But when everyone's cheap 200 dollar netbook fries, with all their data, they may start to think that they want something a bit more durable.

Also I wouldn't call Asus cheap. I think one of their cheapest laptops is around 700, and they make some of the best motherboards for desktops. I've had an asus laptop that went for about 5 years before the hard drive went tilt.

Who knows what will happen, but I think this prediction doesn't really hit the mark. ]]>Jan 19th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Jan 19th 2010 6:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Jan 19th 2010 7:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
words of sense..]]>Jan 19th 2010 8:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
I'd say Dell's only true competition to Apple is what they own with Alienware. And as an Alienware owner, I can say it will never happen.]]>Jan 19th 2010 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
+1

Besides, how many truly American PC makers are there these days? Most companies at this point are Japanese, Chinese, or Taiwanese. Those few which claim to be American don't really do any design work (other than case styling) and everything they sell is made overseas. The only three companies I know with significant U.S. assets still are IBM, HP and Apple. Well, maybe Dell, but then I do have to wonder.]]>Jan 19th 2010 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
I think people forget that even if they buy an IBM, HP, Dell, etc most of the guts/components are made overseas. ]]>Jan 19th 2010 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
Alienware is mostly made in China (Taiwan) already. It might still be designed here but the point is that the brands (Dell, HP, et al.) will disappear. In 20 years, I would not even bet that Apple is safe. IMHO, the only that is saving Apple today is the attention to detail with the hardware, of course, their software and the integration of the 2. HP, Dell, Acer, Asus, Lenovo, and Toshiba can produce on a small scale hardware that rivals Apple. For example, Voodoo. But in the end, this too can be designed and sold under any brand and might one day.

American consumers, in general, are not loyal to brands. All it takes is a generation to prove this. Twenty years is sufficient. Acer is number 2.

Others have rightfully pointed out where American brands matter - high-end, high-performing products. If Apple remains in this category, I think that they will continue to have a strong brand - I think that this really depends on there software and integration of products. Servers and workstations on the other-hand is where American brands have a strong hold and is likely to maintain. The design and the complexity gives a real advantage to American engineers and designers. But I think they should keep an eye on the Taiwanese and Japanese companies.]]>Jan 19th 2010 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Jan 19th 2010 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Of course, at some point the Chinese will be smart enough to outsource to ... poorer countries. Yay.]]>Jan 20th 2010 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Jan 19th 2010 6:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
He's too busy proclaiming the supposed 'death' of US PC makers... it's gonna take him a while.

On topic, he should really get his glasses or numbers re-checked. Acer wasn't big in the early 90's, because as I recall, they didn't make (many) computers back then. As I recall, IBM and Packard Bell were the top dogs at that time. Acer just played the game smart when they usurped the young netbook division. He's taking the baby steps, then running, without going through the walking phase. Sure, nowadays, PB is now a subsidiary of Acer, but they're not selling full-size desktops right now. When they cover all bases, let us all know. Then we'll give them their due.]]>Jan 19th 2010 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/I guess you missed all those Gateway and eMachine desktops in stores.]]>Jan 19th 2010 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
Right... I didn't really mention it because they are way low-end PCs. The other PC brands (and I) wouldn't touch 'em with a ten-foot pole.

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hehe aaah the beeb :) The world now forgets how the UK was once the leader in home computing :P]]>Jan 19th 2010 6:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
UK Computer industry is still doing rather well. ARM sell quite a few CPU's these days you know (-;]]>Jan 19th 2010 7:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
Ooops forgot, (and OT) did you see that BBC program Micro Men a few weeks ago! Top stuff! Best thing i've seen for years]]>Jan 19th 2010 7:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/Some guy predicted the GM & Ford back in the 80's and that was Toyota's CEO.

Ask your father/grandfather about GM and ask him if he saw it fall.

Just saying.]]>Jan 19th 2010 6:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
Acer laptops are pieces of shit.]]>Jan 19th 2010 6:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
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"INDIA HAS A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE" it is just a myth sponsored by the India government and the media.

]]>Jan 19th 2010 7:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/And busted.]]>Jan 19th 2010 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
No its not, its just plain old statistics ... their top 10% "genious" populuation is 4 times larger than the US one, simply because their population is 4 times larger ...

Plus there are other social forces at play that tilts the balances more in their favour.]]>Jan 19th 2010 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvi-acer-founder-predicts-extinction/
Mmm...delicious irony.
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