http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/ Engadget Comments for Microsoft has AT&T's back, sues TiVo for patent infringement http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Jan 20th 2010 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
Patented by me as of...NOW!

See you in court!]]>Jan 20th 2010 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
This is why I think there should be a law that patent holders must license out their patents at a reasonable price, or they lose the rights to the patent. Technological advancement is being choked by patents these days. Alternatively, maybe patents should be renewed annually with an exponential price increase every year to renew.
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Not a bad thought. Or, perhaps it should be required that the patented idea be productized, whether by the patent holder or a licensee, within 5 years. If not, then the patent is declared invalid and anyone can use the idea.

REFORM THE PATENT SYSTEM!]]>Jan 20th 2010 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Jan 20th 2010 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Jan 20th 2010 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
What is? The patent? Or the fact that if Apple is not in a lawsuit with anyone atm, it'll find one just for shitsngiggles.]]>Jan 20th 2010 9:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
I meant AT&T, not Apple.

]]>Jan 20th 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Same difference, in the world of litigation.]]>Jan 20th 2010 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Jan 20th 2010 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
I had to play off from that. Sorry.

@aubreyq

I know, in my mind I said AT&T = Apple, but I had to save myself from getting downvoted. One can thank the iPhone for that.

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Yeah, not sure how this is related. They do offer a way to connect o Amazon to buy videos, but that is more of a proxy than built into their system. ]]>Jan 20th 2010 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Jan 20th 2010 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/They are friendly because U-Verse uses Mediaroom 2.0 which gives IPTV services hand and feet to walk on.]]>Jan 20th 2010 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Jan 20th 2010 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
Maybe you should let the courts decide whether their patent is valid before throwing blame around.]]>Jan 20th 2010 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
Yeah, because it's not like Tivo has ever sued anyone for patent infringement *cough*Echostar*cough*. But since Microsoft is now doing suing over infringement, IT MUST BE EVIL AND THEY HATE YOU AND WANT TO KILL YOUR PEANUT!!!!11!1

Companies do this all the time. It's the (shitty) system at work. Get over yourself.]]>Jan 20th 2010 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
Dudes, massive lack of a sense of humor. Talk about getting over one's self.]]>Jan 20th 2010 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Jan 20th 2010 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
In this case, the first patent is probably invalid since TiVo has been "displaying programmable information" since they came to market and other products have been doing it before then. I'm not sure how the second one applies to TiVo unless Microsoft considers TiVo's interface to Amazon, Blockbuster Online, Disney, etc as being a "secure method for buying and delivering video programs" in which case Microsoft would also sue Amazon, Blockbuster, Disney, etc.]]>Jan 20th 2010 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
Actually I think ReplayTV did...Tivo just won the consumer battle (sorta like VHS vs Betamax).

I've had Tivo for years and love it, but I also use Windows Media Center with my 360 as an HD-DVR. I love them both really. I just wish everyone could just get along.]]>Jan 20th 2010 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Jan 20th 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Jan 20th 2010 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
One of the patents microsoft states tivo infringes relates to buying shows and content from the box.

Also microsoft has been doing media related stuff since windows 95 with media player and has dvr funtionality inside windows since atleast windows xp media center. Maybe even before that .

So this isnt microsoft being a bully. Its microsoft sticking up for its patents VS a bully (tivo).

Blame Tivo barking up the wrong tree. ]]>Jan 20th 2010 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
HOW DARE YOU USE TRUTH AND LOGIC!

No one seems to read anymore. Secondarily no one seems to realize that most systems are made up of subsystems which some or all may or may not have individual patents. In other words, everybody licenses a bit of this and that to make a complete product. The problem being is that somethings are patented that should be. TIVO does not want AT&T Uverse to have the ability to do time shifting. Simply to be able to fast forward and rewind any live TV that is playing on one of their boxes. Right now the only way you can do that on the Uverse system is that you must have recorded the program first.

TIVO sued AT&T to keep them from using this "technology" which in truth is not a technology it is a idea, a process, it freaking fast forwarding through commercials or rewinding live TV to see a replay. It is not TIVO's code or software, it is a freaking concept. SOOOOO... Microsoft is suing TIVO over the use of MICROSOFT'S concepts. It stupid. Microsoft knows it, AT&T knows it and they are trying to show TIVO that they are just as vunerable to being sued.

AT&T is waiting to implement this feature on all Uverse clients when and if they win this suit or it is dismissed. If not, they may have to licenses the concept from TIVO. This sounds like a small thing, but it is a HUGE feature for people who use DVRs. I have been holding back on Uverse because of it.

IMO ... TIVO is the one who is being the j@ckA$$ about it all.]]>Jan 20th 2010 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
Um, I have U-verse, and I can pause, rewind, and fast forward live TV as I please. Not sure where you're getting that from.]]>Jan 20th 2010 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Jan 20th 2010 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
Ah, don't you mean EchoStar raped TiVo, then TiVo sought recourse and won?

I wouldn't say TiVo is getting what they deserve as they're perfectly aware that this kind of thing can happen when aggressively defending one's IP.
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6,008,803 – http://tinyurl.com/yzfx69d
6,055,314 – http://tinyurl.com/yzjhoye

Patent 6,008,803 looks like it could cover TiVo's "Browse by time" and/or "Browse by channel" menus. TiVo could probably eliminate that feature or implement it differently.]]>Jan 20th 2010 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/
Both of those look like patents for stuff that was already around for years and years. Both filed in 1996? Don't think those are going anywhere.]]>Jan 21st 2010 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/microsoft-has-atandts-back-sues-tivo-for-patent-infringement/Jan 21st 2010 5:16AM