http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/ Engadget Comments for Palm Pre Plus (and Pixi Plus) review http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 9:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
YES! We don't even have the plain old Palm Pre or the Pixi yet!]]>Jan 20th 2010 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
Lovin' the international support.

I mean this in the nicest way possible: sorry Australia for always getting shafted. I feel your pain (Korea gets all the cool gadgets). I know this phone is not an iphone killer, but you do get the sense apple is paying a bit more attention to the 'little guy' more than ever before, especially with the PDK. That was a HUGE announcement imho.]]>Jan 20th 2010 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
Oh, and a SHOUT-OUT to PreWare devs at webos-internals and Precentral for massive support of the homebrew community. Those guys are truly awesome; they make me fall in love with my Pre all over again with every new update to their Preware app. Good job, guys!]]>Jan 20th 2010 10:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
Why would anyone want this phone??

Palm Pre disadvantages....
* No video calls over the 3G network
* No memory card slot
* Glossy plastics look cheap, love fingerprints
* Camera has no auto focus… nor any settings at all, disappointing image quality
* No video recording unless hacked
* Web browser lacks Flash support, but it's on its way
* No DivX/XviD video playback support
* No Bluetooth file transfers
* App Catalog available in a limited number of countries
* Small and fiddly QWERTY keyboard keys
* No onscreen keyboard, portrait typing only
* No smart dialing

Palm Pixi disadvantages...
* webOS can at times feel sluggish
* Processor struggles to finish rendering photos, web pages
* No video camera
* Keyboard may be too small for some
* Camera produced dark images
* No WiFi
* No killer apps, yet
* No Desktop app
* Does not sync with iTunes
* Bluetooth didn’t work with our car kit
* Unable to edit Office documents
* Why doesn’t this come in glossy white?]]>Jan 21st 2010 2:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 21st 2010 3:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
What's false about it?? ]]>Jan 21st 2010 3:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 21st 2010 4:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
OK i apologize for the wifi part as these two devices will have wifi and bigger memory..but still won't have a microSD card slot and video recording. Also its crappy camera and bluetooth capabilities is still a Major FAIL!

]]>Jan 21st 2010 4:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
"Why would I want this phone??"

Went ahead and fixed that comment for you.]]>Jan 21st 2010 4:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 21st 2010 5:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
how can 3 or 2 MP cam be so awesome? and you are comparing it to 10MP SLR??..please dont humiliate yourself!

evidence pixi cam produced dark images:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2009/11/500x_pixishot.jpg]]>Jan 21st 2010 6:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
its obvious pre and pixi look good and more appealing to every because engadget took some effort (and some bias) to take some good shots. i wonder why they forgot to mention the terrible camera quality or the bluetooth. hmmm of course that wouldn't be appealing right? and which is why you down-ranked me. ]]>Jan 21st 2010 7:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 21st 2010 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://bit.ly/palm-pre-plus-pixi-plus-details
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I love the homebrew comunity, posting from my Pre ]]>Jan 21st 2010 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
I read elsewhere that the Pre Plus still won't have video capabilities. What's up with that?]]>Jan 26th 2010 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Feb 10th 2010 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
Well the objectivity of this blog is probably no news to anyone. In the video, about 1 minute passed: "there's no other platform that would do multitasking: not s60, blackberry, iphone..". Didn't you guys just review N900??]]>Jan 21st 2010 2:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
Fact: Engadget have bias towards Nokia devices.

Editors love to diss Nokia because it appeals to their web traffic and if you do not agree with their views, they like to label you as trolls or vocal minorities. Just view the following link.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/symbian-provides-early-glimpse-at-2011-nokia-smartphone-experien/comments/24710450/]]>Jan 21st 2010 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
It's true! S60 and maemo does multitasking like no other platform. Nothing comes close. Please ignore all the engadget bias and be an educated consumer!]]>Jan 21st 2010 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
The N900 isn't as interesting as the Palm Pre.

Also, Josh Tops did this review while ziggy did the N900. That might explain the difference in the quality of the photography.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the N900 is not a direct competitor to these other phones. It is too big/heavy to really be called a smartphone and the UI isnt' good enough to give to your mom. On the other hand, I think webos/android/iphone are all mom-approved. Nokias smartphone is stil the E72-type device running s60.]]>Jan 21st 2010 2:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
oh boy...get ready to be down-ranked!

if N900 not a direct competitor then what is?]]>Jan 21st 2010 3:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
I tell ya, I respect an author / editor who is open to civilly engage you and debate a certain argument, than one who would revoke your (and several others) commenting rights for calling them out on poor taste when referring to the dead, as it happened to me on Engadget's nemesis. Since then, I've never looked back.]]>Jan 21st 2010 4:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/


]]>Jan 21st 2010 7:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/You're gonna get downranked so fast 0.0]]>Jan 20th 2010 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Ha. Irony]]>Jan 20th 2010 9:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
i should've known lol ]]>Jan 20th 2010 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
Battery Life & Performance Performance is now awesome!

Actually since webOS 1.3.5 released in December 2009, the battery on my Palm Pre phone now lasts about 3X longer. And the performance is incredibly fast. So I don't know what you are talking about.]]>Jan 20th 2010 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Battery is actually not as bad as it used to be. It used to be outright horrible. I almost had a change of heart, and then they released 1.3.5... Sure, there is room for improvement, but now I love this little device as never before. ]]>Jan 21st 2010 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/so is the reviewer wrong with his "doesnt last an afternoon" comments? If so how/why is he wrong?
Am thinking of getting one but battery life is a major barrier. ]]>Jan 21st 2010 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
Sometimes the phone drains incredibly fast. Sometimes it's good enough. I usually need to charge my phone after 10-20 hours. Depending on how heavy my use is. On an average day I say I charge it after 12-14 hours and have like 20-30% left. Then again I'm more of a light-moderate user (I text far more than I talk on the phone).

Some things drain the battery very quickly. Sprint Navigation is one of them. Don't expect to be able to use Sprint Navigation for over 5 hours straight, even on a full charge. Right now, after 7.5 hours I have 89% battery left, but I BARELY touched my phone today.

As for the phone itself, as time goes on the more and more I like it. It's getting better by leaps and bounds with each major OS update (at first, webOS kind of sucked, now it's respectable) and the lack of quality apps is really starting to not matter. I find that to be true in general. The longer you have your phone, the less you care about apps since you realize that 95% of apps out there are unnecessary trash. I still think the iPhone OS runs much smoother and I do miss some of the iPhone games (and I have a gut feeling that the iPhone's battery lasts much longer). But even then, I think I'm more than happy with my Pre. I've played with a Nexus One a bit too and I found out that yeah, I definitely prefer webOS to Android, though I think Android's potential is still off the charts.]]>Jan 21st 2010 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
Most of the response provided by spacemanspork on the battery life of the Palm Pre is quite accurate. But I need to provide some additional information and correct a few things he said.

First off, the battery life on the Palm Pre is not shaky at all. Battery usage is based upon the features of the phone you are using. Accessing the Internet consumes more power, which I estimate will cause the battery to last for about 8 hours of continuous usage from a full charge. But just playing music will last much longer, about 20 hours of continuous playing. Talking on the phone should last longer than 8 hours (who talks that long?) since the screen is turned off while you are talking. Overall, you should go up to two days between charges if you are doing moderate amounts of all of these things (Internet, Talk, and Music). But with more heavy usage, you will need to charge your phone once a day. Once I charge my phone at night, I can now go through the entire day knowing that my battery will last the full day.

The iPhone 3GS, whose battery you cannot replace, is rated to last “up to 5 hours” for Internet usage and up to 5 hours of talk time. So the battery performance of the Palm Pre smart phone holds up very well to the competition. Palm states that webOS 1.4 which will be released next month (Feb. 2010) for your phone, will further increase batter life greatly. And you can also replace the battery in the Palm Pre for a higher capacity battery.]]>Jan 23rd 2010 5:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
Beat this: A Samsung Blackjack 1st gen needs charging every night. 10-12 hours of awfulness. In its defense, the thing has Exchange checking, but that's set to the lowest setting, as with brightness. Come on! There isn't even a Wi-Fi radio to turn off. I think 10-20 hours is amazing now.]]>Jan 23rd 2010 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jul 4th 2010 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
Now ship both of 'em to me, Engadget!]]>Jan 20th 2010 9:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 9:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 9:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/-from, iphone owner]]>Jan 20th 2010 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/
I will never understand cell companies in the usa]]>Jan 20th 2010 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/Jan 20th 2010 10:03PM