http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/I have already bought a $3000 kuro and a $300 PS3.

I WILL go to the theater and spend the extra $3 to see the movie in Real-D ]]>Jan 22nd 2010 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/PS3 was confirmed to play 3d movies via a firmware update
Many people did not buy their HDTV yet and many current users will properly upgrade their HDTV by 2012 or so (If the world didn't end by then and of course if 3D become popular)

What next people will complain why i had to buy HDTV when my CRT was working fine? if you dont care about 3D then people shouldn't enter 3D topics because 3D wont be forced it's optional. ]]>Jan 22nd 2010 8:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 9:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 23rd 2010 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
Marshall Donnerbauer]]>Jan 23rd 2010 1:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 23rd 2010 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
I can't help thinking that people are being deliberately led to believe that what they saw in the cinema Avatar's 3D is what they'll be seeing at home with this 3D stuff.

I think a lot of people are set to be deeply disappointed.

3D on a vast cinema screen in a darkened room is about a zillion miles away from what most are ever going to get in their normally lit living room at home on the brand new 32" - 50" HD TV most will have to buy to even see it
(the set must be able to do 120Hz/240Hz instead of faking it as an 'effect').

Personally I can't see it (with specs and at home) as anything more than a passing gimmick, again.
Just as we have now TV Co.s will periodically show some 3D films.

No biggeee.]]>Jan 23rd 2010 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
Also, I'm pretty certain non-3D will always have a market. TV didn't kill radio because there are plenty of times that you want media, but simply can't divert your visual attention (in the car, doing chores, cooking, etc.). Passive, low-attention TV watching *is* possible for things like cooking, but I wouldn't want to risk steam or hot oil damage on the glasses and I can't keep ideal distance requirements while running around a kitchen.

So a LOT more work is to be done if 3D will ever completely replace previous TV forms as colour totally replaced b/w.]]>Jan 23rd 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 23rd 2010 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
I actually was able to attend CES and watch a clip of Avatar in 3D on a typical 32 inch 3D television, and it was, if not even better, watching in a living room then in a theater...]]>Jan 24th 2010 12:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 24th 2010 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/they are trying to make it glasses free I think. I try and avoid glasses. I have contacts and there's no way I'm going to wear glasses for TV
]]>Jan 28th 2010 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 8:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 23rd 2010 8:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
We've seen the transition from b/w to color, analog to digital, standard to hi-def (resolution), smaller, thinner and lighter TVs yet the content has remained much the same. What's the next step?

Social Networking on TVs? ]]>Jan 22nd 2010 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
Choose Your Own Adventure TV shows]]>Jan 22nd 2010 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 8:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 25th 2010 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
Only the early adopters (me, probably) will pay that much.]]>Jan 25th 2010 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
I won't be jumping on 3D set just yet, but as a Brazilian, I would love to watch the World Cup on 3D, specially since we might have a chance of winning.]]>Jan 22nd 2010 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/As a Scot, I feel exactly the same. If you swap the 'football' for 'women's indoor curling', and the 'winning' for 'qualifying'.]]>Jan 23rd 2010 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
And if you swap the 'qualifying' for 'drugs scandal'.]]>Jan 23rd 2010 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Brazil is not going to win the world cup. Sorry.]]>Mar 27th 2010 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
I strongly believe that the 3-D movemement will need much more than AVATAR to make the transition happen most americans are just now barely grasping HDTV. I feel that NEW VIDEO GAMES would be KEY you would have everyone talking about the experience now being boring in regular 2-D and Over excited about 3-D Gaming. I feel that 3-D nor then or Now will ever go mainstream in the home.

One thing I also never hear anyone mentioning is Screen size! what makes IMAX 3-D look so amazing is that the screen pretty much covers all your field of view making the 3-D immersive. If you have a 50 or even 65" T.V and are watching at recommended distance, the picture will only cover approximately 60 to 65% of your field of view making the 3-D immersion somewhat limited to that view. Anyhow as much as I am dying to play games in 3-D and watching Movies in 3-D in my living room or Movie Room I don't see this catching on. I'm just being realistic. Most people WILL NOT specially in this economy invest in a new t.v set and 3-d capable blu ray players just to experience few movies. Not unless they come out with 3-D technology that doesn't require glasses and that is affordable, like maybe 10 years from now.]]>Jan 22nd 2010 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/All 3D games are already 3D ready. I was playing games in 3D what seemed like years and years ago (Elsa Revelators, anyone?) and basically any game that uses direct 3D could be played with full 3D effect out of the box. Damn were those glasses humiliating though...]]>Jan 23rd 2010 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/3D without glasses = sign me up]]>Jan 22nd 2010 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/3D with glasses - works anywhere

3d with glasses - count me in]]>Jan 22nd 2010 9:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
To make it usable, you'd need something like a massive array of MEMS lenses on the surface and very, very sophisticated head tracking. Engineers can only dream of that kind of stuff right now.]]>Jan 22nd 2010 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
Like most things, it's going to look incredibly hard and/or impossible to do - unless you know how.]]>Jan 23rd 2010 1:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Im guessing that they are going to make them both integrated to the system, if you are alone or with someone no glasses needed, but if you are many then apply the glasses

also why no one has talked about HOLOGRAMS no more? arent they 3d too?]]>Jan 23rd 2010 3:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 23rd 2010 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Golograms!? Whats that?

Im talking about Holograms, not like what CNN did with one person standing.

Think of it as 3D TV..... but no glass barrier (the screen of the TV)

I believe we are heading to that direction, hopefully in this Decade]]>Jan 23rd 2010 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 8:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
Honestly, I love the idea of 3D, I just hate the idea of wearing the glasses. I have to already wear optical glasses, and I'm really not looking forward to wear another pair to watch a movie. And sadly, you can't have one without the other, so I think that I'll stick with regular TV for now.]]>Jan 22nd 2010 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
an almost but not quite comprehensive list... what about full screen wall TV? (there's a good example in one of the Back to The Future Movies), here the entire living room wall is a TV, and when BigBrother 25-3D isn't on it can show your favourite panoramic vista... instead of painting your wall beige you will instead, for example, have a live view of the Alps, or your favourite Beach etc.]]>Jan 23rd 2010 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 8:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/..and implement Skype into it. I'd love to be able to pop up onto my friend's table, suited as Princess Leia and say "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi; you're my only hope."]]>Jan 23rd 2010 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 8:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
My feeling is that the TV manufactures know that 3-D isn't really ready yet, but it makes a good talking point when trying to sell a more expensive HD set to someone upgrading. ]]>Jan 22nd 2010 8:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
well, I'm off to see Avatar3D tonight... I'll be very interested to see if it gives me a migraine. Re: games, CodMW2 gives me an insta-migraine, so much so that I now can't play it.... here it's not the movement but the strobing gun-muzzle-flash effect, ouch!

- er, when I say "insta" I mean after 4 h solid play!

- even when my head is totally fucked I still want more!!]]>Jan 23rd 2010 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
As far as I know, the blu-ray will contain both versions.]]>Jan 22nd 2010 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 24th 2010 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/
1) A "noticeable" improvement in quality.
or
2) A drastic improvement in convenience.

Furthermore the amount above 100% is directly proportional to the speed of adoption.

B/W TV 1)=75% 2)=75%, 150% WIN, radio with pictures, high adoption
COLOR TV1 )=95% 2)=05%, 100% WIN, lifelike pictures that move, high adoption
VHS 1)=35% 2)=65%,100% WIN, home recording and playback, high adoption
BETAMAX 1)=05% 2)=65%,70% LOSS, low adoption results in failed format
D-VHS 1)=40% 2)=0%, 40% LOSS, high cost and low adoption results in failed format
DVD 1)=90% 2)=80%, 170% WIN, great improvement in picture and instance access, hard wearing physical media, high adoption
BLUE-RAY 1)=90% 2)=9%, 99% LOSS, but is marginally moving to the win side, not enough improvement in perceived quality but may make up the difference in extra features.
PVR/DVR 1)=25% 2)=90%, WIN 115% will end up with high adoption but at a slow rate.
3D 1)=10% 2)=-50%, -40% LOSS, No major jump in quality, inconvenience of glasses, extra cost. I could see this rise to +25% with a "glasses-less" solution, but not for many, many years.]]>Jan 22nd 2010 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/Jan 22nd 2010 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/switched-on-the-two-sides-of-3dtv/There are major problems with the current tech used to create a 3-D experience. It works well in a controlled environment like a movie theater, but in people's homes the facts like glasses are required and the viewing angle is bad are probably going to keep even people who own a 3-D ready TV from using that feature much.

There is also the matter of cost. Avatar cost of a lot of money to produce, and no TV show is ever going to come anywhere near that budget. The news is never going to be the same sort of experience, and 3-D adds nothing content wise if you're watching a show full of talking heads. There are TV shows, like the Super Bowl, that will embrace 3-D, but it'll be a gimmick.

I agree that sooner or later we'll make the jump to 3-D. I just don't think we'll be doing it until they manage to perfect 3-D without glasses.]]>Jan 22nd 2010 10:17PM