http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/dang thats me!]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
You're that guy's girlfriend? Ew.]]>Jan 25th 2010 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
How like Google has a database of people's lives on file. Tom Tom has your driving life on file.]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
Makes me think twice about registering my divice with Tom Tom. Why now would I give them the serial number of the unit I just bought, along with my personal information? One more stake in the heart of privacy.]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
big brother doesnt care about you. dont worry about it]]>Jan 25th 2010 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
Thanks Big Brother, I'll sleep easier tonight. ]]>Jan 25th 2010 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
"although that likely has something to do with TomTom's earlier findings that Washington D.C. also has the most congested traffic in the U.S." - article]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 25th 2010 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
Yes I took a few stats classes and remember these things including AOVA and T squares. I was just venting on the obvious lack of correlation (stats again) with the Tom Tom fact and what happens on the road.

Basically a statistic like this from Tom Tom is so completely useless, it should not be published. There is so much context missing to provide meaning to this one very broad stat that you can't draw a single conclusion that is worth anything.

Shame on Tom Tom for publishing it and double shame for Engadget to do little to shed light on the subject. Can someone report on news like this or will we all only get a fairly mindless reprinting of a press release from Tom Tom?]]>Jan 25th 2010 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/I drive about 50-70 miles a week in the city (top speed 40mph) and on the weekends I average about 100-140 miles a week. So two thirds of my driving is on the highway. My average speed is 45mph.]]>Jan 25th 2010 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Glad I don't have a TomTom, and I hope Garmin is not doing the same thing.]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
Try the I-95 after 3 P.M. Cars don't move. That probably accounts for 0 MPH for TomTom.]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
TomTom = skynet
]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 25th 2010 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 25th 2010 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
Funny, I find it quite the opposite. GPS tells you exactly where you're going, how far until the next turn and what direction it's going to be so I drive faster because of that info and it really doesn't matter if it's an unfamiliar area its a highway for Christ sakes, not downtown NYC. Plus the estimated time of arrival makes it almost a game of trying to shave as many minutes off it as possible before I arrive. ]]>Jan 25th 2010 3:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 25th 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
But, still, I'm pretty sure I spend more time with my GPS on in urban/suburban areas with a lot of sudden, poorly marked turns than I do on sprawling highways where I have lots of space to drive fast.]]>Jan 25th 2010 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 25th 2010 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
That being said, my unit stays silent because I drive fifty-five miles per hour in the right lane on expressways.]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/If anyone behind me doesn't like my speed, they are more than welcome to pass me.

I'm all about saving gas.]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/You do realize that does the exact opposite, right? Oh, of course not. ]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
i got a Garmin because i noticed my friend's TomTom was obnoxious as hell when i went 5mph over. my Garmin is a little more understanding.]]>Jan 25th 2010 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
I drive 60 MPH, the optimal speed for my vehicle. ]]>Jan 25th 2010 12:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/My Northstar V8 gets 26mpg at 85mph vs 24mpg at 30mph. For mpg there isn't any difference between the 60mph speed limit and 80-90 other than me getting to my target quicker. Tested over several miles for the past few years at cruise control. Consistent speed is the key to saving gas generally (depending on your transmission and what gearing it has.)]]>Jan 25th 2010 12:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/. Add to that the fact that wind resistance becomes a more and more important factor as speed increases and it's hard to argue otherwise.]]>Jan 25th 2010 1:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
Be careful where you do that. I'm from Illinois and there is a section of our compiled statutes that forbids that: 625 ILCS 5/11-701(b),(d). At least 9 others have similar laws.]]>Jan 25th 2010 1:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
SORRY, I misread your comment. Thanks for staying to the right!]]>Jan 25th 2010 1:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Most cars don't have a 6th gear. Besides that, you're correct. The graph at this government site: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml shows that fuel economy typically falls off quickly after 65 mph.

My own research gathered from a 17000 mile road trip lead me to the unsurprising discovery that my gas mileage was nearly astronomical when driving across the midwest with cruise control at 55 as compared to driving across Montana at 85.]]>Jan 25th 2010 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
Do users have a clear option to opt-out of being monitored? ]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 25th 2010 1:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
You'd think since they know the road being travelled, the speed limit on that road, and even the traffic conditions, they could study the data a little more and not make themselve look like idiots releasing what they did..]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/and if you're not driving 80mph, you're getting run over...regardless of
what lane you happen to be in. ]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 25th 2010 12:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
Now could cops use this to look for crazy drivers if they were given it live, sure. Will that happen? Not if any of the major privacy groups have a thing to say about it.]]>Jan 24th 2010 11:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/Jan 24th 2010 11:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
Totally missed a political joke there.]]>Jan 25th 2010 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/24/tomtom-data-finds-drivers-arent-speeding-much-are-being-watche/
Incidentally this is why I pull the battery off of my cell phone when I don't want big brother tracking my movement; you would be surprised what the NSA does with our network connected gadgets if we are on one of their "special lists".... ]]>Jan 25th 2010 12:18AM