http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/ Engadget Comments for Apple, Google, Microsoft and Yahoo compared at the macro level http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 3:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 4:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/This is the full version

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/500x_empires_03.jpg]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Actually, based on his comment history, I gather he is an Apple customer and not exceptionally biased. If so, I think you owe him an apology.]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
Yeah, lame post. Not to mention Apple currently has a larger market cap than Google and they are increasingly at odds with each other competitively.]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
why is zune not considered a mobile device?]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
definitely. the truncated list makes yahoo look like a putz. poor yahoo, nobody loves them anymore...]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
Zune would be music hardware.

I would say the MS should have a faded dot in mobile Hardware at least. All the work that Danger have been doing has got to end up as a phone right? From what I have heard they are work separately form the WinMo team. Think there is enough evidence to assume MS will have mobile hardware - if Google can be afforded the same.]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
Oh yeah - why was the chart truncated? Its not like the original was massive. Would have save other asking about enterprise software and gaming hardware.]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 5:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Engadget pwned. Thanks man.]]>Jan 25th 2010 5:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
Finally, it doesn't really matter who ticks what box, as someone has already said the quality of your service in each category is far more important than your mere presence.]]>Jan 25th 2010 5:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Owned @ Engadget.
Seems like CES must not have been good to Engadget.... Hmmm *Puts flame proof helmet on* Bring on the flame bait!!! Charge!!!!!]]>Jan 25th 2010 6:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Or even MS first since they are working on Pink.]]>Jan 25th 2010 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/ ]]>Jan 25th 2010 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/There have been too many of these lately.
This sort of thing doesn't exactly reinforce
confidence in engadget's credibility.]]>Jan 25th 2010 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://bit.ly/is-carol-bartz-a-loser
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If anything this chart just shows that they are mostly all capable of doing the same things anyway so it just doesn't matter.]]>Jan 25th 2010 3:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
I like how in a post espousing the merits of choice you both subtly bash the iPhone and praise Android and WinMo.

So much for understanding that no device is ever truly better or worse than another for all people.]]>Jan 25th 2010 7:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
I still don't get why they put yahoo in the post. Was it to make the other 3 look good?]]>Jan 25th 2010 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 3:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
Looking at companies on a macro level but then leaving out one of Microsoft's biggest advantages over the rest - the Enterprise arena i.e. Server OS, Active Directory, Exchange Server, SQL Server, etc.

Is this just specific to the consumer level?]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
Are you kidding? Those are huge money losers.. How about omitting the Mac for Apple? Duh! That's the whole widget.]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/They neatly included online retail but forgot offline (as in bricks and mortar) retail. Another billion dollar business for Apple.

Microsoft's lead in the enterprise should be noted as well. It's a big barrier to Google.

Nevertheless it is an interesting chart and fun to look at.]]>Jan 25th 2010 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/500x_empires_03.jpg

Ha, and then Engadget tried to defend themselves with some BS aboue pixel length. They could have just shrunken it, or put the two halfves side by side. They don't even need photoshop for that one.]]>Jan 25th 2010 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
Google doesn't make their own Nexus. HTC helped Google to design and manufacture it.

There are many Microsoft Windows Mobile Phones but none of them designed completely by Microsoft.

]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
Also, there is the Enterprise and gaming hardware categories for Microsoft, Google and Apple?

Microsoft has PC, XBOX 360, Zune HD, and windows mobile for gaming.
Google has Android platform for apps and games
Apple has iPhone/iPod Touch/Tablet for Apps, and Games.

iPhone has GTA Chinatown Wars too!

What a biased chart NY Times has posted.
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You know...Companies like Asus similarly "help" Apple make hardware.]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
They don't design the Intel Chips they use, they don't design the mobile processors they use, they don't design the LCD screens, they don't design the memory...they buy these components from the likes of Samsung, LG and Intel.

Stop being so sycophantic ]]>Jan 25th 2010 5:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
Whoa, I had to look that word up]]>Jan 25th 2010 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
No they don't. That's the job of an ODM. ODM's design 99.9% of the electronics. They generally do the real engineering in the case design as well. Apple does the 'designing' as in the marketing aspect of design.
Asus and Quanta are the two big ODMs Apple has and continues to use.]]>Jan 25th 2010 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
You have no idea of what involvement Goolge had with HTC. The same way you have no idea what involvement Apple has with it's ODMs.
As far the public goes, the relationships are equivalent. Google and Apple export the design and manufacturing of a product to an ODM. They have requirements, sometimes hard such as specific components, other times soft such as overall memory, or power specs, volume, etc. The ODM then creates a design adhering to specs. After approval, they manufacture. ]]>Jan 25th 2010 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
.....Seriously, are you this daft? Ok how about posting the Memo that proves you know more about the inner workings of Apple and Google?

Neither of these companies has released details of the full process under which they were developed. Like I said before, as far as the public is concerned, both contracted ODMs to design and build their devices.

Do you work for either Apple or Intel specifically dealing with this process? If not, then STFU on specifics because you're just making bad guesses. You have no idea if Apple played a bigger or smaller role then Google in designing the iPhone vs Nexus One.]]>Jan 25th 2010 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
Rofl, then your knowledge is severely flawed. You don't know what google did and what apple did. Just like almost everyone else that says they know the same thing. The people who know what either company did was involved in that process directly or indirectly and is unlikely to come onto engadget and speak about it in the comment system.


The point is in essence STFU if you're not willing to specify that your statement is your own speculation and has no merit to legitimacy.]]>Jan 25th 2010 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
Rofl... that's still speculation. General acceptance does not make something fact. It's still speculation. The reason things like this get 'general' acceptance is because one person like you touts it as fact and that spreads. Douche bags like you are the source of most misinformation in society. STFU and society will likely be better.


Do you know what Apple does to service a product? Many companies outsource the servicing of products as well. You still know nothing.]]>Jan 25th 2010 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/
"Q) Reporter asks why it’s necessary for Google to design the phone. A) Google says it’s inaccurate to say that it designed the phone. It’s Peter [Chou, from HTC]’s work. Google says it handled the software."

just sayin...

source: http://digital.venturebeat.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-2/]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 4:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Maybe in the US, but not necessarily in other countries.]]>Jan 25th 2010 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/apple-google-microsoft-and-yahoo-compared-at-the-macro-level/Jan 25th 2010 2:37PM