http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/ Engadget Comments for Amazon pulled Macmillan titles due to price conflict -- confirmed (update: they're back!) http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
OMG take your spam and GTFO!!!]]>Jan 31st 2010 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/]]>Jan 31st 2010 4:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
i will go and buy book instead of iboob, whatever they call. ]]>Jan 31st 2010 4:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
I'm other news Steve jobs is a hypocrite, rather than an old dog learning new tricks. Making enemies seems to be something he enjoys and someday it will come back to bite him]]>Jan 31st 2010 4:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Because McMillan have said "f**k you" to Amazon and jumped ship to Apple who presumably are giving them the rates they want.

It's pretty relevant to Apple, is news an in interesting - although I think the iPad is the inferior reading device that wont matter a shit if they get all the titles.]]>Jan 31st 2010 4:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
they should just tag every article 'apple' now so those people who have this . . . weird hatred of apple . . . will just fume and have to imagine that steve has somehow managed to take over every single aspect of the gadget world as they read their newly filtered engadget. ]]>Jan 31st 2010 4:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/this news about amazon and Macmillan. keep your apple rumors out.]]>Jan 31st 2010 5:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Engadget has to take every precaution to make sure the 'Apple Haters' don't go into rage, we must be careful or they might send another wave of negative energy through the Engadget discussion.

Please remember Apple Haters have very fragile egos and don't like to hear anything that might challenge their views, so it is best for all if they filter anything that could relate to Apple.

engadget.com/exclude/reality]]>Jan 31st 2010 7:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
"Guess the old dog just learned a new trick, eh?"

The difference between Apple stand towards record companies and publishers is that Apple had the upper hand in audio players, but it´s a new player in reading devices. If the iPad sells well, they are probably gonna play hardball with the publishers too. I would take a kindle over an ipad any time (for reading books, at least), but I bet those things will sell very well.]]>Jan 31st 2010 7:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Competition is good on the end of the users.. Hopefully, it'll still be the case for the ebook wars.. Details: http://bit.ly/the-apple-ipad-details

]]>Jan 31st 2010 8:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Why is it that everytime a corporation executes a perfect business strategy they are demonized.

It seems brilliant to me for Apple/Jobs to encourage a fight between publishers and Amazon.

The spread the word that the kindle is a headache and you can't get the content you want.

Corporations are supposed to maximize profits. They are never supposed to give you the best deal unless it leads to maximizing profits]]>Jan 31st 2010 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
You're comparring apples to oranges....

Watching video and playing games for hours on end is NOTHING compared to reading an entire book on an LCD screen. Have you tried it, kinda sucks...]]>Jan 31st 2010 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Good for Amazon. Macmillan thought they had a stronger position to muscle Amazon after the "revolutionary" iPad was announced. They may have bet on the wrong horse.]]>Jan 31st 2010 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
"Please remember Apple Haters have very fragile egos and don't like to hear anything that might challenge their views, so it is best for all if they filter anything that could relate to Apple."

Uh, this seems to refer more to "Apple fanatics" that despise criticism, critique, analysis of some corporation that they have decided to back like a religion, and have taken it upon themselves to deem all who are "Apple haters", and expect them to all go away or sit in silence. They are truly the most thin-skinned children on the internet. this whole deal with the Pad, and the chorus of people, Apple users included, that were negative about it must have been a 9-11 sized disaster for them.

Of course there is nothing preventing those same Apple fanatics from going to ANY topic regarding non-Apple products to tell people how inferior they think they are or how people should stop using poor products and go buy Apple ones, which they do on countless forums.]]>Jan 31st 2010 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
The opposite is true with books. While some piracy exists, only your hardcore pirates are pirating books right now, so Apple is free to set the purchase price to whatever pleases them and the publishers.]]>Jan 31st 2010 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
The theory says that competition is good because companies compete to please consumers…but that model breaks down when only a few companies dominate the market, and they realize it’s much more profitable to simply collude — er, collusion is illegal, so clearly they’re just “adjusting to market forces”…riiight.

Competition is good on the end of the users.. Hopefully, it'll still be the case for the ebook wars.. Details: http://bit.ly/the-apple-ipad-details]]>Jan 31st 2010 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Hypocrisy? No, he's been quite the expert for a long time.]]>Jan 31st 2010 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Are you channeling Steve Ballmer?]]>Feb 1st 2010 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
If users have to pay hundreds of pounds for an E-reader, THEN pay JUST AS MUCH for the E-book as they would the hard-back... what's the point? Just get the physical book!

I know how I'd go about selling E-books, and these guys are waaaay off the mark.]]>Feb 1st 2010 6:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 4:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 4:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Holy Shit did I just read a post on Engadget that actually sounded more like journalism and not "I am on Jobs cock 24 hours a day"? I mean it didn't put a line of defense for the beloved Engadget Apple CEO, this is a historic moment in engadget history.]]>Jan 31st 2010 4:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 6:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Everyone wants to sing the praises of Amazon, the one that takes something like a 70% cut of all content, but slam on the people that want to actually make any moeny on their work.

I would expect every single publisher to drop follow McMillian on this in the future. Amazon is like the record distributers, take all the profits and leave the scraps for the publisher and even less for the author.

Yeah, Amazon is the good guy in white here. ]]>Jan 31st 2010 7:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Exactly. Amazon wants to take 70% of $9.99 and leave 30% for everyone else. Apple wants to take 30% of $14.99 and leave 70% for everyone else.

Do the math and figure out who you want to high five. If you say Amazon again, I'll weep for the poor suckers writing books for your entertainment.

]]>Jan 31st 2010 8:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/As if the when the publishers get more they will pay the writers the same percentage more, I have my doubts about that.
And that's a cute method btw, raise prices and give the extra money made to the publishers but only if they agree to give you exclusives, yeah that's real caring and decent.

]]>Jan 31st 2010 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
If you think the authors will see a penny more under the new system, I'll weep for you.]]>Jan 31st 2010 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/If that's the case, then it's on the publisher and writer's contract negotiations, not Apple or Amazon. Writers will simply need to adjust their contracts with publishers going forward. At least Apple is allowing more revenue to flow back towards the writer so they have the ability to negotiate for more money. With Apple both the publisher and writer can make more money.]]>Jan 31st 2010 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Sort of like how raising the price of MP3s to $1.29 resulted in more money for the musicians. Oh, wait. ]]>Jan 31st 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Again, that's up to the musicians and record labels. If the musicians want more money, they need to make a move to demand it. That can't be put on Apple's head.

All I'm saying is that if Apple keeps their revenue model from the app store, they will make less money overall than Amazon per sale, leaving more money in the pipeline for the rest of supply chain. If the writers can't stand up for themselves to get what they deserve, then they deserve whatever scraps publishers give them.]]>Jan 31st 2010 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Yeah, their huuuge profits.
Obviously anyone who makes a profit is evil, right?
....]]>Jan 31st 2010 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Oh by the way, in regard to your previous comment about authors not getting more money if the price goes up or if money revenue flows back to authors and publishers:

“Today, authors often receive royalties in the range of 7 to 15 percent of the list price that publishers set for their physical books, or 25 percent of the net that publishers receive from retailers for their digital books,” said Russ Grandinetti, Vice President of Kindle Content.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20100120005644&newsLang=en]]>Jan 31st 2010 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
So, yeah, Amazon is the white horse here from a customer POV.]]>Jan 31st 2010 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Actually we're both wrong. Starting in June Amazon is adopting Apple's pricing strategy. So Amazon won't lose a dime on any books with an auto 30% built-in revenue on every sale.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20100120005644&newsLang=en]]>Jan 31st 2010 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Go Amazon!]]>Jan 31st 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
The publisher is taking a loss on e-books? WTF? There is _zero_ manufacturing cost per e-book title. The publisher does nothing at all. No printing, no paper, no shipping, no risk of overprinting. All the things that a publisher did with physical books are gone.

There is no effing way that an e-book should be more that $9. It is all profit. It is Amazon, Apple and eReader.com that bear the distribution costs (server et al).

I've been buying and reading e-books for many years - reading from eReader on a Palm PDA. My main gripe has always been that the price should be cheaper. $15 for an e-book is obscene. ]]>Jan 31st 2010 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
But $14.99 for a zero cost ebook is insane. Knowing publishing (and I do) the costs of meatspace hardcopies are very high for the publisher. With an ebook the distribution cost is eaten by the retailer and perhaps the user (amazon whispernet, apple store,AT&T 3G, whatever). So the cash from an ebook sale is pure gravy for the publisher.

To those calling this price fixing: it is not. The sole publisher is setting their prices. That is their right. If more than one publisher gets on board and they all collude to jack up prices, then maybe something might be done, but probably not. It's not like there can be competition between publishers for the same title.

I'm just buying more hard copies now. My kindle collects dust just becuse the value of the experience is not there at the current price points for new releases. ]]>Feb 1st 2010 1:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 4:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Jan 31st 2010 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/
Apple = The Wicked Witch of the West

This is how fanboys will spin it.]]>Jan 31st 2010 4:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/amazon-pulled-macmillan-titles-due-to-price-conflict-confirme/Well, what do you expect when Apple is fighting for higher prices and Amazon for lower?]]>Jan 31st 2010 10:19AM