http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
Awesome. I was going through serious withdrawal without comments. For me, reading other peoples' comments is far more enjoyable than posting my own.

Now just work on improving the commenting system!]]>Feb 4th 2010 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Haha, that's a good one. Glad they are back on, the comments are the funniest part of this place.]]>Feb 4th 2010 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
I'm so glad comments are back. I just didn't enjoy the site without them.]]>Feb 4th 2010 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
yesss! i had almost starting hating the silence! engadget just lost touch without the comments!!!!]]>Feb 4th 2010 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/ As a matter of fact I read Engadget for the comments only, gadget blogs are a dime a dozen on the webz, but funny, interesting and why not, provocative, commentaries from the nameless billions netizens are a lot harder to find]]>Feb 4th 2010 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Aunty : "Master Blaster!!"
Master: "Lift Embargo!"

Never been spanked by a tech blog before. :)]]>Feb 4th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
I like turtles.]]>Feb 4th 2010 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
I just want to say it feels good to be back...]]>Feb 4th 2010 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsN6NOhWkxM&feature=related]]>Feb 4th 2010 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
CHYEA! thanks josh... no trolls makes the world a better place, ya digg? wait.... im not a troll to you am i..... am i?????]]>Feb 4th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
It's nice to know that engadget is paying attention at least... unlike autoblog where I've seen many a racial slur go free even after reporting it.]]>Feb 4th 2010 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Lol yeah yesterdays daily roundup made my eyes cringe! :)]]>Feb 4th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
Oh man, that's exactly what happened! XD]]>Feb 4th 2010 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
The awesome awesome app.

So glad comments are back though.]]>Feb 4th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/+1 to engadget for bringing back the comments. ]]>Feb 4th 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
anyone can be trollish at times; bad days happen.

@Josh topolsky: thanks slot for letting us back at it! The apple free engadget, combined with Thor's ban hammer, should help make this place like it used to be! ]]>Feb 4th 2010 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/It's great to see this up again. While it made an excellent point and did get the message across to many, it was sad to not get to read or partake in discussions as well.

I hope this woke up some of the true hateful folks that spew irrational attacks. ]]>Feb 4th 2010 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
]]>Feb 4th 2010 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
I'm very torn at the moment. A few years ago I stumbled across Engadget and was instantly a fan. Since then I have avidly followed tech news from here. I hadn't made a correlation but looking back I can see the downward trend Engadget has been on since Ryan Block left. The news posts just seemed to get "snarkier" as time went by. It was noticeable but tolerable as I was still getting a good dose of tech info and there was enough intelligent commenting to also make it enjoyable. Then I started seeing useless and hurtful comments getting up-ranked and informative comments blasted. Still I have hung on hoping for improvements. Unfortunately even the improvements have come at great cost. The new site redesign quite literally leaves me with a headache trying to digest the information/picture/color overload that is the front page. So improvements to commenting and site mechanics meant enduring this as well. And now as if a straw to an already overburdened camel's back we have iPadgate(tm). I have always given the editors at Engadget the benefit of the doubt as to their reporting bias but the days leading up the the iPad's announcement left no doubt in anyone's (except possibly the editor's themselves) mind just how biased the reporting here has become. I would have even forgiven this as it won't change the fact that other devices and technology still does make it to these pages and I still enjoy (mostly) the open commenting that really adds an interactive element. But turning commenting off because some comments were not liked by the editors has given me great pause. Spin it however you like but the fact remains the editors had full control over deleting said comments and people reading had down-ranking at their disposal. I have been reading Slashdot for over twelve years and to my knowledge commenting has never been disabled (it might have been I just don't know about it). In that time I believe the only comments that have been deleted are ones that contained copyright violations. I really want to like Engadget again but I can't just now. You might want to give CowboyNeal a shout and see how he handles all the comments about the size of his unit, The goatse comments on EVERY post, the repeated instructions on how to train your slave. And yet /. still has more constructive dialog than I have ever seen here. I'll be watching and hopeful but I'm not holding my breath.

If you have read this far you are far too cerebral and should get a hobby that does not include technology ;)
]]>Feb 4th 2010 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/RT: I can rank you from the mobile app :)]]>Feb 4th 2010 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/RT: I can rank you from the mobile app :)]]>Feb 4th 2010 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Not to be a complete brown-noser, but you guys over at Engadget keep up the great work. Comments or no comments the site is awesome.

Now back to being a grumpy old man... while I LOVE the DinoRiders picture when you guys turn off comments (always a treat), have you ever thought of using a still from a different 80's cartoon? Thundercats, GI Joe, G.E.M.?]]>Feb 4th 2010 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
1. I bet you tell the all girls how long your "comments" are. :|
2. Arhc? :)]]>Feb 4th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
You're right. They could've deleted the problem comments at any point but I think the problem became so pervasive that they felt the need to shut it down for a couple of days. To delete each problematic comment at that point would've been a full time job itself.

I applaud the Engadget staff for what they did. They recognized the problem and took what I see as reasonable steps to truely address the problem, not just tending to the symptoms as simply deleting comments would've been.

Now it's up to the commenting community to see if they can keep the discussion lively, fun, but civil.]]>Feb 4th 2010 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Absolutely agree with you! I rarely comment here, but I didn't even realize, how much I enjoy reading comments of others.
But also I'm happy, that Engadget did what tey did. IMHO it was necessary!]]>Feb 4th 2010 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
I agree with most of what your saying.

My own two cents: The state of technology news and editorials has taken a sickening turn in the past 4 years. Back when the internet was comprised of a more intelligent demographic we used to be able to get news from AnandTech, TomsHardware, TheInquirer, HardOCP, ...the list goes on. The editorials and commentary were a thousand times deeper, developed and full of substance. While I do appreciate the quick nature of viewing a blog to see what has happened lately, I miss (and sometimes yearn for) more sophisticated commentary and analysis on the industry.

Anand Lai Shrimpi has started to post some on Engadget as a contributing editor, and I applaud Engadget for finding someone with real credentials for commenting on the news. (Not meant in disrespect to Engadget's current editors but an acknowledgement of what acceptable credentials are today in comparison)

The unfortunate fact still remains (and grosses me out frequently) that Engadget is owned by AOL. AOL and I have some history, back when I was a young kid trying to learn as much as I could about computers, AOL was the most pathetic excuse for an internet portal. The teenage content filter level would not even let you visit PBS.org. Fast forward today, progress has been made, but I've never felt that AOL in association with Time Warner ever fully understood the gravity of internet journalism and content provision en masse. Such is that persistent slide of decadence that has led us to the poor quality of the internet today.

I leave you with a few quintessential quotes from Mcluhan.

"A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight and understanding."

"All media exist to invest our lives with artificial perceptions and arbitrary values."

"the medium is the message"

-Marshall McLuhan



]]>Feb 4th 2010 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/well, i think you're right about your comment, and i just proved myself to be a complete tech geek... kudos to engadget for bringing comments back, because the site just was plain boring without people's opinions to read. what i don't agree with engadget is that commenters, even though they make up a small part of the readers, are well balanced, and not biased... i think they represent all the readers, not only the fanboys]]>Feb 4th 2010 8:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/seriously me to I usually just come here to read the comments I had been goin to BGR and giz lately . News is the same at all these places, the comment crowd is what sets them apart]]>Feb 4th 2010 8:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/
***SERIOUS QUESTION about ENDGADGET***

Some here may not agree with the stance endgadget has taken on this whole commenting issue. Others may even say that endgadget themselves have caused many of the problems by taking somewhat slanted positions regarding certain companies and devices. For those upset with endgadget's recent behavior I question if an alternative solution exists? Is there an unbiased competitor to endgadget that has taken a different approach to letting the raw voices of their readership be heard? Please post your endgadget alternative websites below and please be serious (i.e. don't post kotex.com etc) as we do not wish to tick off the powers that be.]]>Feb 4th 2010 10:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 4th 2010 11:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/commenting-on-engadget-a-humans-guide/Feb 5th 2010 9:00AM