http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/ Engadget Comments for This day in Engadget: Steve Jobs calls for an end to DRM http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/And then came the iPhone and the iPad, and DRM became pervasive ): Microsoft even beat Apple to offering DRM free music. Oh well, at least Apple doesn't have Microsoft's software validation crap (iWork >>>>> Office).]]>Feb 6th 2010 9:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Forget iTunes, DRM-free video anywhere. For some reason video seems to be getting away with it right now. I guess people for some reason don't see music as being as valuable as video.]]>Feb 6th 2010 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
Talk to the movie studios. They're the ones demanding DRM for their movies. Same with XBox Marketplace, Netflix streaming, you name it, it all has DRM. It's because of the movie studios.]]>Feb 6th 2010 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
http://web.archive.org/web/20040305002602/http://www.engadget.com/]]>Feb 6th 2010 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/archive/03.02.04]]>Feb 6th 2010 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
Wow, even back then they had crapgadgets:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040305121138/www.engadget.com/entry/0028247582524458/]]>Feb 6th 2010 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Wow, that layout was really elegant. What happened?]]>Feb 7th 2010 3:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 7th 2010 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
héhé!]]>Feb 7th 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/I think it'd be a really cool column to do.
As often as you can, heh.

Also, great job on your Apple Rumour Roundup thing. We need to do this for every hyped launch, it'd be awesome.]]>Feb 6th 2010 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Here is a good one:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/17/nokia-prepping-n97-multimedia-computer/]]>Feb 6th 2010 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
i'm sure they will... not]]>Feb 6th 2010 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
Laura Junes is Josh's wife.]]>Feb 6th 2010 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
IE6 Can be described as a DRM browser as it restricts modern standards]]>Feb 6th 2010 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
This would push the limits so much. It really makes me sad it's not going to happen.

*(estimating MS will not fail again - at least not as much as with earlier IE-versions. The rumors about potential SVG-support in IE9 may let us hope here. JS-Engine, HTML5- & CSS2/3-Rendering aside - proper PNG-Alpha-handling when handled by JS-animations was my wish for improvement to microsoft's IE-Dev-Team, if anyone asked me. But the list of improvements and bug-fixes these poor guys have to deal with must be so damn long, I shouldn't confuse them with additional bug-reports.. .)]]>Feb 6th 2010 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
Internet Explorer (that's taboo). Hopefully no one uses IE these days.]]>Feb 7th 2010 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/does this mean that Internet Exploder caters also the "mysterious archiver of ancient Engadget screen shoots fetish guy" user base? That may explain the majority market share!]]>Feb 7th 2010 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
Even if there was no DRM on movies, I don't think you would be in the clear to add your own chapter in the middle of it and resell it.]]>Feb 6th 2010 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
wrap everything with bacon instead of DRM. Sales would soar]]>Feb 6th 2010 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/23/the-engadget-show-002-steve-ballmer-droid-nook-and-new-mac/]]>Feb 6th 2010 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/22/steve-ballmers-shocking-autograph-of-macbook-pro-caught-on-vide/]]>Feb 6th 2010 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/22/dubais-new-luxury-tower-to-resemble-an-ipod/" Slated,iPad. That was one hell of a clue. :)]]>Feb 6th 2010 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Josh, if it makes you feel any better, I loved that article.]]>Feb 6th 2010 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Feb 6th 2010 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/Shuuush
Hail oh mighty and righteous Steve slayer of DRM and savior of us all.]]>Feb 6th 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
Sorry, but I'd love to see you prove that. It's a pretty well known fact that Jobs has been fighting the record labels for years to get their music DRM free, and in fact the only reason the iTunes store had DRM music was because it was a specific condition of the labels agreeing to let Jobs sell the music on the store.

Additionally, It's also a fact that Jobs had to concede to raising prices on the iTunes store to get the labels to allow him to sell the music without DRM. Furthermore, you know why Amazon was allowed to sell music DRM-free? Because they agreed to higher prices right up front. Since day one, Amazon's MP3s have cost up to $1.29 per song.

Apple was the only holdout staying at $.99/song which is the specific - and the only - reason it took so long for Apple to be able to sell the music without DRM.

Suggesting that Jobs was lying about the labels forcing DRM is really ignorant, since it's been well documented for years exactly what Jobs has had to go through with the labels.]]>Feb 6th 2010 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
If you are not aware of the role European governments played in all this then the ignorance is yours. ]]>Feb 6th 2010 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
Not even close. You appear to be ignoring the simple facts that I already laid out for you. Saying Apple "loves" DRM is ignorant in and of itself. Again I'll ask: what possible reason could Apple have to promote DRM? How is it possibly in their best interest? What does Apple gain from having DRM? They don't own the content, they only sell it. You are basically saying Apple prefers to make things difficult for their customers, which frankly borders on real stupidity.

You'll also note that the instant that one record label agreed to let Apple sell their music DRM free, they DID. It took longer for the other three labels because they wanted more money. At no point did Apple ever continue to sell music with DRM on it when they had the option to sell it DRM-free.

The European governments had nothing to do with the record labels' greed, and that was the specific - and only - reason the iTunes store had DRM on it at all. Denying THAT is ignorant in every sense of the word. ]]>Feb 7th 2010 1:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
Apple DOES prefer to make it more difficult for their customers to use their content on the products of other companies and DRM has helped them do that in many areas of their business. That's why you can't sync Palm products with iTunes.

Apple did NOT drop DRM as soon some labels dropped their demands. It was a scandal then and Jobs has been criticized for it many times since.

You simply seem to be unaware of the historical facts and are filling the gaps with your own assumptions.]]>Feb 7th 2010 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
You're completely wrong again about the timing of Apple's DRM-free offerings. The music store didn't move to an entirely DRM free, variable pricing structure until 2009:

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/04/07/itunes-drops-all-drm-adds-variable-pricing/

A full two years earlier, an agreement with EMI allowed for DRM-free 256kbps tracks.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/02/emi-music-on-itunes-now-drm-free/

For someone who claims to be so versed in the history of this issue, you make some extraordinarily ignorant statements. Apple moved to drop DRM entirely, rather than share the technology they invested in (and still use to this day) to appease the concerns of other shortsighted media industry executives.

As soon as EMI was willing to play ball, Apple delivered. Amazon was used as a tool by the other labels to force Apple into a variable pricing structure, and unfortunately, they won. We now have DRM-free tracks, but Apple had to concede the $0.99 pricing model.

As to your EU red herring, why in the world should Apple be obligated to share a technology they developed? I don't see any other company opening up their proprietary media encoding schemes for free use by all and sundry. Until the old-guard media execs get their collective heads out of their asses or get replaced by new blood that understand the digital age, Apple has every right to keep their tech to themselves.]]>Feb 7th 2010 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
You need to re-read the discussion. You start by missing my point, then go on to support it.]]>Feb 7th 2010 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
You CAN sync Palm products with iTunes. The reason the Pre keeps getting blocked is because they're doing it WRONG by making the Pre impersonate an iPod. That's because Palm are really being idiots. iTunes uses a standard XML file that ANY DEVELOPER can use to sync their product to iTunes. The fact that you appear to be ignorant about that too is just adding to long list of Apple-related facts you seem to be ignorant about.

DRM hasn't helped Apple at all.You know what would have helped Apple even more? If all the songs on the iTunes store had been DRM free right from the start. Why wouldn't Apple want that? You have yet to answer that question.

Yes, Apple DID drop DRM as soon as the labels didn't require it. I'm not sure what planet you're writing from, but as soon as Apple finalized the deal, the music went DRM free. Do you just have a bad memory or something? What is your problem?

As soon as you'd like to stop making things up and have a real discussion, let me know. Until then, I'd suggest you do some research.]]>Feb 7th 2010 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/this-day-in-engadget-steve-jobs-calls-for-an-end-to-drm/
A simple link corroborating what you're asserting would go a long way.]]>Feb 8th 2010 3:58AM