http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/What you gonna do if it is a lie to us?]]>Feb 8th 2010 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
Does it matter?

Microsoft: "It's a hardware problem, talk with Toshiba"
Toshiba: "It's a software problem, talk with Microsoft"]]>Feb 8th 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
"better not be a lie to us"

engadget meme status engage]]>Feb 8th 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
That's probably your XBox360...]]>Feb 8th 2010 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 9th 2010 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
This whole thing was ridiculous. Imagine if HP came under fire for making its printers warn the user when the toner is getting low. How dare they!!]]>Feb 8th 2010 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
You mean kind of like when Epson (or maybe it was HP) was warning people to change out their ink cartridges even when there was still a decent amount of usable ink still left in them.

Yeah. Nice.]]>Feb 8th 2010 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Yeah, but not quite. Microsoft doesn't stand to make a buck if you have to replace your battery, whereas that's HP's lifeblood.]]>Feb 8th 2010 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/And by "that" I meant "getting you to buy more ink."]]>Feb 8th 2010 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
Sure MSFT can say that this is not a Windows 7 problem, but a bios vendor problem. Then they need to work with these vendors to remedy the issue. Vendors may not even know what the problem is, and are too lazy to look into it. All in all, it just looks like a bad PR issue for MSFT.

Additionally, most reporters of battery problems also report of the issue disappearing when switching back to Vista. The most likely reason is because Windows 7 over or under charges (depending on whether the reported designed capacity is too high or too low), resulting in shorter battery life or in some circumstances permanently damaged batteries.]]>Feb 8th 2010 11:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 9th 2010 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
Plug your laptop in with the computer off, surprise, the battery still tops off.

As Microsoft has said, all it can do is report the data it receives, it cannot write anything to it.]]>Feb 9th 2010 4:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
Yeah that thinking has never had negative results. Lance Armstrong had the same logic, and look at what happened to him. ]]>Feb 8th 2010 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
Replacement of usable cells with unusable or unstable cells?

I've heard many worse comparisons...]]>Feb 8th 2010 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
1st HP. 2006 model. Battery dead, will not charge
2nd HP. 2009 model. Battery dead, will not charge
Dell. 2009 - Working fine.

Both HP's were working perfect before W7 was installed. Could be completely unrelated but it's a bit strange. I've had a friend who's had similar issues. ]]>Feb 8th 2010 8:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
I have the battery issue on three HP laptops. I have two Sony laptops that are fine.]]>Feb 8th 2010 9:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
Thats just HP. they really bad laptops. I had bad battery's all the time with more than one hp. I moved to asus and am much happier.]]>Feb 8th 2010 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
The Sony battery recall included:
1) Apple
2) Dell
3) Toshiba
4) HP

Nuff said.]]>Feb 9th 2010 4:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
I had that on a HP laptop with Vista. turned out a BIOS flash fixed it and it was HP's fault all along.]]>Feb 8th 2010 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
I'm seeing a pattern emerging with HP's.
2 of mine had this issue. Now both the batteries are completely dead. I was using one of the RC's so it's happened over a period of time.

I'm definitely pointing fingers towards HP though after reading through these comments.]]>Feb 8th 2010 8:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
" BIOS flash fixed it "

(-;]]>Feb 9th 2010 9:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
Whenever it is battery issue, the problem being the OS' fault is just very unlikely.... probably just a 20% chance.

Only a small group experience this, so it is more a hardware issue. Go press those manufacturers, don't let them shake the issue off. ]]>Feb 8th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Tell that to the people who dualboot Vista and 7 and only have low battery life in 7.

I love MS but this is without a doubt a software problem and they need to fix it instead of denying it.]]>Feb 8th 2010 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
Yeah we believe you. ]]>Feb 8th 2010 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/A lot of people are confusing two separate battery problems one most people get that's that windows power management isn't working right and it doesn't throttle stuff like vista and xp do and the other is windows 7 reports there battery is bad/dieing based on what the lion battery reports. They are for the most part two totally separate problems and this article is about the hardware reporting to windows that it is bad and windows relaying it to the user which neither xp nor vista did with out a third party tool. It's like blaming windows for when your printer ink reports empty yet it's still half full. The problem with Win7 draining your battery in 1 hour vs 3-4hours is a totally different issue and is still being looked into. ]]>Feb 9th 2010 6:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
o_O]]>Feb 9th 2010 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
The battery Designed capacity is 43200 mWh
But Fully charged capacity is 39772 mWh
Current capacity is 39733 mWh which is 100% capacity

Now I have had my laptop since Aug 08, The battery has been unplugged, and plugged in at my pleasure, I also keep it charging when I am home.

I am really surprised that this battery is still going strong, after 18 months. ]]>Feb 8th 2010 5:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/agreed, I haven't noticed this on my HP Mini either]]>Feb 8th 2010 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
I get the feeling it's only the "I constantly have my laptop plugged in with battery in" or the "I wait till my battery is full then unplug power only to replug it back as soon as battery empty" people that have the issue.

For educational purposes, people should read this:

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
]]>Feb 8th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/
That was a very useful link. Very informative. Thanks!
]]>Feb 8th 2010 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/microsoft-says-windows-7-battery-issue-isnt-one/Feb 8th 2010 6:24PM