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Not only do you have to ~50 dollars a month (that's the last estimate I heard about it, it could've easily changed since then) to just access your games, that doesn't even cover the cost of actually purchasing the game itself (again, which I've heard will have no major discount for it being a digital copy) and even if you pay a singleplayer game only like ME2, or Fallout 3, or what have you. You still have to pay the subscription fee.

Not to mention you're not even so much as getting 720p HD from all the beta shots I've seen, with compression artifacts seen all over. And forget adding mods to any games, you don't even so much as have the game installed on your computer. This isn't like a digital download like through Steam, where at least you have it stored on your HDD, or downloading a game through XBL or PSN, where again, it's still stored on your HDD. No, this is just "streamed" to you, so you have no control over what you want to do with the game. And lord knows you can't re-sell it or exchange it. And when OnLive goes under, what happens to your games then? It's not like they have a Steam Model, where they can give you the ability to play without using the Steam Servers, no, they can't even do that. Because you don't own any portion of the game itself.]]>Feb 9th 2010 7:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/
please, don't be so pessimist.
OnLive will rules..... and i bet that the first game ported for Online will be Dukem Nukem Forever.
]]>Feb 9th 2010 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Being delusional about OnLive doesn't negate all the FACTS I just stated. I hope you're ready for the companies to destroy any control you had left over games when this comes out.]]>Feb 9th 2010 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Feb 9th 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Feb 9th 2010 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Everything has already been verified except for the pricing of the games, and of the subscription fee. Everything else is factual of what will happen with OnLive.]]>Feb 9th 2010 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/
so much for your $50 monthly ]]>Mar 10th 2010 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Nope. Have fun paying 15 dollars a month, just to play the games you still have to pay for. And once you stop paying, you lose your games. And even if you play singleplayer, you still have to pay a subscription.

You're the only idiot if you actually believe this will take off.]]>Mar 10th 2010 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Feb 9th 2010 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Feb 9th 2010 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Feb 9th 2010 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/
because EA doesn't have the money or the people to build their own system, especially when perfectly good platforms exist already...

SMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART]]>Feb 9th 2010 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Feb 9th 2010 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Feb 9th 2010 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Feb 9th 2010 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/
Then, let's talk about Tiger Wood.

;-)
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For someone used to playing games at 45+ FPS you will notice some lag! It averaged a little under 1 second.

Now I do live in AZ, and their server is in California, but their reach is said to go out past New Mexico, and Colorado, according to their website.

I can't speak for those people who live in California, who may have a really low ping, and have almost no lag whatsoever. But it's not budget effective to have a data center in every state in the US.

Other then that, the interface looks pretty nice, it does lag and skip quite a bit. And if I'm paying a large monthly fee for the actual service, and not the games, then I would want to expect close to zero lag.

For something that's been in beta as long as OnLive has, I was hoping they got it down by now.

If 50 bucks really is their monthly service fee, they won't get anywhere. After about three months, you've already paid the cost of a high end graphics card (like the GTS 250) and you can run all the games you want. (Except maybe Crysis their servers only ran it at about 20-25 FPS)

Who knows what will happen in the end, but I'm gonna be sticking with steam for quite a while before I'd ever consider switching. ]]>Feb 9th 2010 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Feb 9th 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/
Of course, people spend over $1000/year just to use an iPhone or some other "smart" phone, so you never really know.

I can see paying $20/month for OnLive service, maybe an extra $5/month for newer releases.]]>Feb 9th 2010 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/
GameTap is $9.99 for their top of the line service, but they have less newer hits and you have to download the games (instead of streaming).

I think OnLive should've tried it out in Europe first since they have faster ISP averages over there, but then they risk the competition here.

One thing they really need to worry about is Microsoft taking the idea and putting it on their 360 somehow. That would be a 37 million console advantage.]]>Feb 9th 2010 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Feb 9th 2010 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/
Dreamcast. Would have been wonderful is the Broadband Adapter was included instead of a shitty add-on.

Xbox. Would have been wonderful if the HD-DVD drive was included instead of a shitty add-on. ]]>Mar 2nd 2010 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/peter-moore-wants-to-be-convinced-by-onlive-already-a-fan-of-ar/Mar 5th 2010 2:56PM