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Check your nerds, engadget.]]>Feb 10th 2010 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
maybe he meant kubuntu?]]>Feb 10th 2010 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
+1

xfce is mo-betta.]]>Feb 10th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
openbox FTW]]>Feb 10th 2010 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/The writer of this article (Donald) changed the wording of the sentence in question after I posted my comment to make it more ambiguous. Before he was directly comparing KDE to Ubuntu.]]>Feb 10th 2010 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
The author is implying that because Ubuntu ships with Gnome as its default GUI, KDE may not be familiar to everyone.

Reading comprehension 101.]]>Feb 10th 2010 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
I use Openbox most of the time, too :). Although I find myself using XMonad for some nice dynamic tiling action more and more often.

The nice thing about Linux is that you don't have to limit yourself to one single way of doing things...]]>Feb 10th 2010 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
Read All Follow-Up Comments Before Posting 101]]>Feb 10th 2010 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
Check your grammar handbook Drew :)]]>Feb 10th 2010 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/As I stated before, the author of this post changed the wording. My comment lacks relevance now and your point is valid every since he changed it.]]>Feb 10th 2010 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Answer this dude, have you even tried Kubuntu 9.10? I have both Kubuntu 9.10 and Windows 7 installed and although Windows 7 has the edge in the UI, you won't notice much of a difference in Kubuntu 9.10.

And Engadget, you are a Gadget site, but you still reviewed, sort of, Mac OSX and Windows 7. Could you just give a hands-on on Kubuntu 9.10? Would go a long way in spreading out the word. If you do so, make sure the proprietary Graphics driver is installed and just try to have a feel of the UI.

Hmmm.. but I already know that I got carried away and its just wishful thinking that Engadget would do so.]]>Feb 10th 2010 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
Plus this thing comes with KWin, those floating windows and animations that every one thinks its so cool for 15 minutes, which is an added plus...

And hey, windows xp is still out there... Very outdated and used by millions. ]]>Feb 10th 2010 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
Although in the case of KDE, and Windows7 et al, I am at a loss as to how wasting over one quarter of the pixels in the screen with window decorations and borders the size of an aircraft carrier, can be construed as increased "productivity." Unless it refers to the productivity of screen manufacturers getting to sell you bigger and bigger screen to basically do the same thing you were doing with the smaller monitor not that long ago.]]>Feb 10th 2010 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
Windows 7 feels like a gigantic toy. "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away" ]]>Feb 10th 2010 2:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Agreed, but with a few settings tweaks you can make it feel really lean and smart :)]]>Feb 10th 2010 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/If there's people at Engadget who use Linux alongside other OSes, then i'm all for a review. i wouldn't want an Engadget review from someone who tried out a LiveCD of Ubuntu and messed with a few netbooks running Linux to write a review. Pardon my ignorance, Engadget writers, but i'm afraid an Engadget review would be closer to the latter.]]>Feb 11th 2010 6:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 11th 2010 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/If you want KDE I recommend either Arch+Kdemod (since you are pretty new to Linux only try this if you have 2-3 hours free and you are willing to learn a LOT about the way Linux works) or go with OpenSuse and upgrading to Kde4.4.
Just remember that while Ubuntu is a very good operating system for Gnome, for KDE it does seem lacking.
The best thing about Linux is that if you don't like the one you are using you can simply download a different one.]]>Feb 10th 2010 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Just thought I would add, you might want to look into separating your /home folder into a different partition, this will allow you to install new distros without losing your data/documents. Some distros might be a little harder to set up with a separate home folder though so remember to use google when you need it.]]>Feb 10th 2010 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
Apparently, Kubuntu is not as stable as openSuSE when running KDE. It's one of the rare "major" distros I have not tried because I like openSuSE so I have slowed down the testing process.

openSuSE is also backed up by Novell which is a nice company and they fund openSuSE in order to make it stable and sell it as SuSE to companies by adding customer support.]]>Feb 10th 2010 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Debian is the answer to anything. Any question.]]>Feb 11th 2010 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 11th 2010 1:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 11th 2010 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
I agree. They all look like they were designed by programmers rather than designers. Much like early versions of Windows.]]>Feb 10th 2010 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
Most Linux distributions use GNOME, KDE XFCE, or LXDE desktops with a different theme. So, there will be similarities if they use the same desktop environment.
]]>Feb 10th 2010 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
Plus, just go to gnome-look, kde-look or xfce-look and download whichever theme you like. There are thousands of themes there. I never stick to the default theme. Every time I make a fresh install, I always replace the default theme with the one I always use anyways.

Desktop environments like Gnome, KDE and Xfce are highly customizable. You can make it pretty much whichever way you like. I have my own customization, which is significantly different from the default one.]]>Feb 10th 2010 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/@Clak
The beauty of Linux is that it is infinitely customizable, it mops the floor with Windows and Mac when it comes to user interface.

http://www.linuxhaxor.net/?p=1030

http://www.smashingtips.com/30-gnome-linux-ubuntu-desktop-themes

http://www.webupd8.org/2009/09/12-gnome-ubuntu-themes-recently-updated.html

Just a few examples...]]>Feb 10th 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
I'm also not a fan of the Window decorations. There are some very nice custom themes available for various OS's on deviantART which, IMO, blow this UI away. By version 4.4, they should have made more improvements to it.

At least in this version, they made the blue glow around the active window more prominent, so that the difference between active and inactive windows are more distinguishable.

All in all, KDE4 is not ugly. However, by this stage in its development, I would expect it to look better.]]>Feb 10th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Well, the fonts used are subjective - but the rest feels incredibly polished, even compared to Windows, I think.]]>Feb 11th 2010 7:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
And what's wrong with DejaVu as a font? Looks great to me and I've tried a good number of fonts!]]>Feb 11th 2010 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/From where I see it, take KDE, toss a linux kernel and busybox, and you have a full OS already. Bloated indeed.]]>Feb 10th 2010 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/
What happened?!]]>Feb 10th 2010 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/kde-4-4-caikaku-released-complete-with-netbook-trimmings/Feb 10th 2010 2:03PM