http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/ Engadget Comments for Kateeva wants to print OLED displays, says they'll be cheaper that way http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Feb 11th 2010 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/
Step #1: Company A makes pie in the sky claim about an insane breakthrough in tech.
Step #2: Investors pour money into the company and the CEO buys Ferrari Enzo.
Step #3: Company never delivers on promise and CEO crashes aforementioned Ferrari Enzo creating an expensive $1million metaphor for the state of Company A.]]>Feb 11th 2010 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Why does that sound familiar?]]>Feb 11th 2010 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Feb 11th 2010 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/
Not a mention or example of a functional display made by even the unit in "testing" right now. A little premature to break out the champagne don't you think? ]]>Feb 11th 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Feb 11th 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/The correct word is prick.]]>Feb 11th 2010 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/
Yeah prick is right. Although the sentence evokes a horribly pornographic image it is still grammatically correct...

F*%k her in the ear. BLOW HER BRAINS OUT. YEAH. I'm the Juggernaut BITCH.

Sorry I could not help myself. ]]>Feb 11th 2010 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/There is an old British movie titled "Prick up your Ears." It is a double entendre, where "ears" doesn't refer to the ears on the side of your head. The British would understand.]]>Feb 11th 2010 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/
Thanks for that laugh. It took a second for me get what you were getting at but I laughed real good for quite some time. So what was the movie about? I'm guessing it dealt with homosexuals in some way.]]>Feb 12th 2010 2:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Feb 11th 2010 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/
So what happens? Money starved startup gets an offer from a huge industry leader

They take it

Huge industry leader quietly buries method for producing much cheaper OLED panels and continues to manufacture their high-priced ones

Massive profit.]]>Feb 11th 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Feb 11th 2010 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/
Yeah sometimes that whole supply and demand thing can really screw the consumer. Though I think they would not do that quite as much if the stock exchange did not have such lofty goals you had to meet to stay a publicly traded company. I think you have to make like over $10 million in profit every three year or something like that to stay listed.

Any real economist who wants to correct that feel free to do so.]]>Feb 11th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/
It's a basic issue of supply and demand. Everyone is hyping up these LED TVs, and they're all rushing out to buy them. It's in high demand, so the prices will reflect that.

Give it a couple of years while OLED gets bigger and cheaper, and more people stay happy with the TVs they already have. Those LED LCD TVs will get cheaper then.]]>Feb 11th 2010 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/]]>Feb 11th 2010 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Feb 12th 2010 4:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/
Soda Industry Exec: "We are going to stop using sugar for our drinks and start using High Fructose Corn Syrup."

Employee: "Why, sir?"

Soda Industry Exec: "Because it will be cheaper that way."]]>Feb 11th 2010 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Feb 11th 2010 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/And it starts fire. Go ahead! I dare you to start a fire withOUT oxygen.]]>Feb 11th 2010 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Oxygen Channel causes cancer to men's brains.

@Gas
Drink some firewater and hold your breath.]]>Feb 11th 2010 7:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Feb 11th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/
Look, DuPont makes ink for printers... all kinds. They know printing. If DuPont can't make it viable, I would be skeptical of any new fangled start up claims. ]]>Feb 11th 2010 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/
Your skepticism is warranted, but this startup looks like it grew out of a Masters/Doctoral thesis, which may mean they found something out that DuPont didn't or may have missed. Unlikely considering the amount of research and money DuPont can back their departments with, not to mention their printing experience. However industry will only pursue something for as long as they think it is cost effective. Someone in a lab a university will crank on their research till it's done because they want to friggin graduate. So there is a chance that this might be the real deal.
Hey a bipedal organism can hope right?]]>Feb 11th 2010 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/I can trump your Master/Doctoral thesis with a Nobel Prize.
DuPont got in to OLEDs when they purchased Uniax, a start up founded by Alan Heeger, professor at UCSB who won a Nobel prize for work with conductive polymers - which is fundamental to making polymer OLEDs work and led to the founding of Uniax. This was over 10 years ago.

Kateeva's approach seems to be a hybrid between vacuum vapor deposition and ink jetting. It remains to be seen if there is a real advantage here or if it is typical R&D hype. All I'm really saying is that based on DuPont's example, taking very plausible sounding university research into real world manufacturing is a whole lot harder than people realize.]]>Feb 11th 2010 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/
Very true, thanks for the info on that. We have a cleanroom facility that does micro and nano scale fabrication along with our synchrotron facility (2nd gen) so I'm familiar with the difficulty in trying to industrialize anything that involves vapor deposition. I've been to a few conferences with people who have done some amazing work with ink jetting in the Lab-on-a-chip stuff but this is of a different scale so it remains to be seen how well this turns out. I wish them luck because I sure a hell would love a cheap 50" OLED for the bedroom.

Hell I'd put one in the bathroom too just for shits and giggles...

Prick Up Your Ears... Still laughing dude. ]]>Feb 12th 2010 2:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Feb 11th 2010 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Feb 11th 2010 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/kateeva-wants-to-print-oled-displays-says-theyll-be-cheaper-th/Feb 12th 2010 1:14PM