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And after all these problems half the internet still won't be critical of Googles declining quality...]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/it's just growing pain, mine works and im not complaining - but then again, im not w/ t-mo ;)]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
Of course, HTC has never been known for high quality construction, so none of this surprises anyone who isn't blinded by Google's massive marketing push.]]>Feb 11th 2010 10:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://bit.ly/the-nexus-one-flaws-details
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It wasn't until this article that I realized I haven't had a problem with my N1 since the update.
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i think they're might be a batch of defective N1 models running around. ]]>Feb 11th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
Considering we have LCD, CPU and motherboard failures *all the time*, a 3G/comm chip reduced to nanosized and to run under a couple of watts, one would expect a batch or two to be defective. Especially if Google made HTC rush the production of this phone == lack of testing...

And for of course, Nexus competitors will be spreading FUD like an east coast snow storm.

Sounds like Google should directly sample those complaining, give them new N1s and see if they get the same issue. Otherwise, they're making (along with the media) the problem more complex than it should be.]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
If you have those types of problems "all the time" you might want to either stay away from tech altogether, buy a Mac or stop buying something that isn't cheap. Just saying.]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
One thing my N1 used to do before the OTA was switch between UMTS and HSDPA repeatedly then get itself really confused then just back down to edge - weird!]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
Mine is at 4 bars (full) when held at the top, and 0-1 bars when held at the bottom, but also stays in 3G. I just repeated the test 3 times, all were identical. Takes about 30-60 seconds to register full signal change between changing position.

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Except I think you mean HTC because Google doesn't actually make the Nexus One, although they did have some part in designing it apparently.]]>Feb 12th 2010 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
http://gizmodo.com/5468824/the-faulty-imac-saga-chapter-5-the-moment-of-truth]]>Feb 14th 2010 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
http://gizmodo.com/5468824/the-faulty-imac-saga-chapter-5-the-moment-of-truth]]>Feb 14th 2010 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/I tried it with mine and it stayed full signal. Although I don't have adamantium skeletal structure so that might be helping.]]>Feb 11th 2010 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
or is it that there might not be a problem other than engadget's slanted wording in the title, leading people to a specific conclusion?]]>Feb 11th 2010 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
All signs point to the N1 device....but whether the origin be in the device's hardware or software....the story is to be continued.]]>Feb 12th 2010 1:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/]]>Feb 11th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/rubbish, the guy at the bottom wants 2 firmwares]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Phone Information>WCDMA only. Problem fixed!

That would usually happens when you're deep inside a building, Tmo 3G is not very good at penetrating walls.
Check my speeds outside Madison Square Garden: http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh3/josesxi/MyT-Mobile3G-1.png
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those speeds arent impressive at all considering you are on wifi.]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Seems that everyone has their share of problems...]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
Apple: Respect, even awe at the creativity present, even if we don't LOVE apple.

AT&T: Favorite whipping post. Bungled rollout, botched CS, horrid coverage and network.

Apple + AT&T: OMGWTFBBQ. We know have to pounce on Apple by default because of AT&T. So any perceived network issues are in essence multiplied by a factor of 10.

Google Phone: TMobile? Why? 3G coverage is having problems and people are surprised? Seriously?

2 things are causing problems with the whole thing: Price of the Phone, and choice of the 1st Provider of service. If Google was really interested in pushing the status quo, they would price it for the manufactured cost (around $200), and get it into people's hands. They also would have gotten a better provider.]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
I don't think you really factor in all the issues when you address your conclusion.

If you want to find a solution to an issue you figure out as many variables as possible. 3G problems are not really existent for me except speed could be greater and I am in an area where people have been experiencing N1 issues. IMO: The issue with the N1 goes beyond price and carrier. Anyways, how do we know the N1 is really ready for "Showbiz"?

If it is a hardware issue then how does that fall only on the carrier?

For example lets say the phone seems to be switching out of 3g to 2g to freqently causing issues to the experience. Could RF HW in the phone not be performing properly and causing the software to detect low signal in 3g and switch over to 2g?

Google has managed to dip their hands into many areas and the real test of the company will be over the next 5+ years. Will they be able to adapt and/or "change the ecosystem" to all the different sectors they are getting involved in?

And I am not an android hater or mac fanboy or whatever, I use a G1.
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You are forgetting to pay the programmers who work on the software to make Android worth anything. The phones don't run on magic. They run on software someone wrote. ]]>Feb 12th 2010 11:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/
Is this a serious comment? Do you see the flaw in your "argument?"

Please don't excuse Apple for the 3G's poor coverage. While I hate AT&T with a passion, I did NOT notice the same connection problems that other users had during the same time. It's because I wasn't using an iPhone.

Same with T-Mobile. I would blame the network, IF other phones were experiencing the same problem. But they aren't. ]]>Feb 14th 2010 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/Feb 11th 2010 1:03PM