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Who owns the patents is what matters, but in the public mind it has to do with who came first. In this case TiVo did both.]]>Feb 11th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
To be honest I have been thinking about TIVO providing dual or quad tuner and connect it to PS3 how sweet would that be. They provide interface and Lifetime Subscription, that would pretty much have you all set for years to come. 1080p interface no problemo, fast processor, easy integration with other Sony products. Build in WiFi. Blu-Rey, 3D. OK I am done. ]]>Feb 11th 2010 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
I can't speak as to all the carriers, but the TiVo service is cheaper than Verizon's DVR, even after you add in the rental cost of a CableCard. If you're willing to pre-pay TiVo then you can drop down even lower.]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
Yeah same here with Cox cable, ($7.50 rental + $10 DVR service fee, as opposed to $2 Cablecard fee + $13 service, which is their monthly, and most expensive plan) but the price of the TiVo makes the cost savings minimal. Over 2 years, I would save $60, which doesn't cover the price of the TiVo. Going up to the bigger pre-paid plans saves more, but its still a lot to chew at once. If you go with the 3 year plan you save roughly $558 (Including the cost of the CableCard rental) or $186 a year, but that requires you to cough up $300 all at once for the plan, plus (Their current price) $250 for the TiVo HD. So if you went with the 3 year plan (There is also a $400 lifetime service plan, but thats even harder to chew at once, and only lasts as long as the device, so if you wanted an upgrade you would have to buy another plan) you would save $308 over 3 years ($102/year, or $8.5/month) compared to the cable company DVR. (Or at least my Cable Company's DVR).

But even with the monthly plan, and the lack of real cost savings when including the price of the device itself, it's really nice to own the device, I've modded mine with an internal 1TB drive and an external 300GB's that's something you can't do with your cable companies box. (Well some allow you to extend it with an external drive, but you certainly can't replace the drive inside). There is also all the nice TiVo features that you can't get with your Cable companies box, but all of those are becoming increasingly unnecessary with todays internet enabled TV's. (And TiVo To Go is useless now, with ever cable station putting copy protection flags on their channels). ]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
The real problem I have is the lifetime plan pricing and its tying to specific boxes. The TV market is changing much more than ever, and the chances of your Tivo becoming obsolete (HD, 3D, SDV, tru2way, cablecard, etc, etc) before your investment pays back is very high. I know they often give upgrade discounts, but it's still a tough sell.


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The amortization should be much more than 2 year. I have a Series 1 for 10 years, a series 2 for about 6 years, and a series 3/HD for over 1.5 years. All work fine today and work for their respective TV sets and rooms/viewers. Amortize that hardware cost out over the 4 or more years you're likely to use and it the economics of owning are much better than "renting" -- same for the subscription....lifetime is a real deal. ]]>Feb 12th 2010 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
And I've mentioned this before but I seriously want to see some sort of streaming component to a new TiVo (Like slingbox built in), but that last one is just a wish, the other two are a necessity, if TiVo wants to survive.

So my guess/hope, a free (With contract) to $99 priced TiVo with a smallish built in drive but restrictions removed from the eSATA port. And a Premium TiVo ($200-$300) With a giant built in drive and some sort of streaming platform built in.

Oh and I am sure they will announce some sort of agreement with Direct TV, but this announcement better be way more than just that. ]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
After reading all these other comments I have a few other predictions.

-Quad tuner
-At the very least in home streaming (So you can have one box with 4 tuners for the house, and some sort of extender device for all the TV's, like AT&T's U-Verse allows)
-Tru2Way (I assume this is a must, it's required for cable company OnDemand content, along with some channels on some cable companies without a Tuning Adapter, and with their recent deal with Virgin in the UK and the inevitable deal with DirectTV my assumption is they will attempt to strike deals to get sold through other cable companies as well)
-3D support, (I'm gonna take a guess, and say this is possibly why they were so quiet during CES, they didn't have plans for 3D really yet)
-Maybe an integrated store (But not the IPTV dreams that seem to be a common theme in the comments, TiVo's business isn't to sell content, they have always allowed other companies to do that for them, but I do see them making buying stuff off amazon or such much more seamless).
-Obviously an improved UI
-Maybe more like these tiny set top boxes that have become more and more popular over the last year or two (Boxee, Vudu, WDTV) So integrated store (I still think they will stick with Amazon), better network streaming support, more of a do everything but games or discs set top box.]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
If none of the following is announced it'll be very disappointing.
A four Tuner model.
New 3D user Interface that looks like the new search, but faster.
MoCA for MRV instead of requiring CAT5 or WiFi.
MRV that includes automatic conflict resolution and a unified Now Playing and To Do list of the entire house. And works with Copy Once content.
Tru2way UI for VOD and to eliminate the need for a Tuning Adapter.
DLNA Client instead of TiVo's proprietary protocol.
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Ah yes, the 4 tuners, that's definitely a possibility, but more than anything Tru2way, I luckily don't live in a market that requires a Tuning Adapter, (Yet) but the last thing I would want is another thing for my Cable company to rent to me. ]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
Yeah, I suspect that the only thing on my list that'll happen is the new UI, and it'll probably be so slow we'll wish we had the old one.]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
Sadly, I think I agree.]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/I would buy a subscription for live!]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
(-courtesy M. Hedberg)]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/I hoping for that soon.]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
If it is the new DirecTivo HD ... they are a tad bit late. We've been waiting since last Fall to order HD, but TiVo and DirecTV kept delaying their new boxes.

I finally ordered U-verse this week and plan on putting DirecTV on hold for a few months (before I cancel completely). Watching OTA and Hulu was getting to be a little annoying, signal and quality-wise.

If the DirecTivo ever does return and if U-verse TV is way too blocky/compressed, then perhaps I'll switch back. I'll at least keep the internet.]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
Dolby Digital 3D Cinema: http://www.dolby.com/professional/solutions/cinema/3d-digital-cinema.html]]>Feb 16th 2010 12:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
crap...tivo not TV ]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
While that would be nice, it would be the death of TV, pay as you go will leave fringe networks behind, and maybe that's ok, but I just see it being a bad thing. When you are forced to buy packages, (The tiers) you are usually buying it for one or two channels, but so is everyone else. (Like I have the Discovery Tier, but I only watch Science channel and the occasional National Geographic, but someone else might watch Planet Green or Discovery Kids). Without enough people pitching in for the group of channels, the individual costs would be too great. I pay $4 for the discovery Tier from my cable company (Note that doesn't include the normal Discovery Channel or Animal Planet or anything else on standard Cable, but its other Discovery owned networks, and other similar themed networks), but if everyone could pick and choose which channels they want, the prices would skyrocket, plus who would want to pay for independent channels when you also still will be getting ads. IPTV may be the future, but the tiered pricing has to remain. (It would be nice if it was structured a little better though, maybe genre specific).]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
I disagree with that being a bad thing.....if these tier based channels were held accountable for all their programming there would be less channels for sure but the good news is the shitty shows would have to disappear. It would force these channels that only have 1 or 2 good shows to appeal to a greater audience and provide a lineup with many compelling and worthwhile shows. If Animal Planet wants to survive you better shore up your lineup or you will be axed.]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Except that we'll have 3 (or 30) more knockoffs of orange county choppers, and very little actual 'science' on the Discovery networks...

I know what sells wins, but it would be a shame is all.]]>Feb 11th 2010 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
"inventing the DVR was just a warmup"

Now we are going to release a product we already released once: The DirecTV TiVo!

That would be a huge fail, and I'm sure TiVo knows that.]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
I love my Tivo HD and wouldn't mind upgrading.]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
Oh yeah, and a lil box that i can plug into any TV anywhere in the house that just streams content to it from the mothership Tivo sitting in the living room. I dont need to to record anything, just stream.]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/This also allows them to sell cable boxes without on-board storage, which is cheaper and allows them to sell it cheaper and make up the revenues on the service-side.]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
on-board storage is a must - how else would you record local things like news, sports, live events, etc.

But not needing to increase the on-board storage would save them tons.]]>Feb 11th 2010 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
A minimum, it should have a 1 GHz CPU or better (pref dual core).
A video processor capable of 1920x1080 graphics, flash, OpenGL and some 3D support.
500 GB Hard drive (minimum)
1GB RAM (minimum)
3 Tuners (minimum)
Tru2Way ready, so down the road it can hook into participating Cable operators VOD services, Caller ID on screen, one touch ordering of premium packages, and whatever other Tru2Way app the MSO want's to push.

]]>Feb 11th 2010 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
4 tuners, fast UI, New UI, and something to replace Cable Card to allow for 2 way communication (and along with it, on demand) would be a nice start.]]>Feb 11th 2010 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
Well you might care about the CPU because if you want a redone HD user interface that actually responds to your remote commands, searches, and trick play controls in a timely mannor, while serving up additional HD streams to other set tops in the home, yeah your going to need an adequate CPU to do it.

I think the current Tivo has a 300 MHz CPU. 300 MHz! I think my computer in 1997 had 300 MHz in it. Wow that's going way back.

I want to see a FULL HD, feature rich UI that complements navigation with bringing in content from various sources. Live TV, Recorded TV, VOD, Online services, etc...]]>Feb 11th 2010 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/Feb 11th 2010 4:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/tivo-has-something-to-announce-march-2-in-nyc/
Basically, Tivo Search essentially becomes the new "Now Playing", with your recorded shows listed, and from which a search for, say, "Modern Family" will allow you to set a Season Pass, see past and upcoming episodes, and access any of those episodes which are recorded, or available on Hulu or ABC.com, or available for pay download from a service like Amazon.

I'm also HOPING for an official iPhone app, which mimics the functionality of the Apple Remote app, thereby allowing easy text entry, and which also allows remote DVR scheduling and control of your queue. ]]>Feb 11th 2010 2:12PM