http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/ Engadget Comments for Samsung Wave launching Bada onto its very first handset at MWC http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/you've been saving that for just the right Bada article, huh?
Go ahead and clasp your hands in the air, shaking them alternatingly over each shoulder - well done

(sarcasm meter = 0)]]>Feb 12th 2010 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://bit.ly/samsung-bada-purported-view]]>Feb 13th 2010 4:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
It's built off 4 layers which is a good start.
kernel layer (Linux)
device layer
service layer
framework layer

Applications appear to be written in C++ on an undisclosed framework. They have been pretty secretive.]]>Feb 12th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Considering it could be on Linux or some other RTOS (in your link) then you cannot look at the OS.

APIs like this are created explicitly to keep you away from the underlying OS and hardware. And LiMo is a joke, used almost exclusively in dumbphones/featurephones.]]>Feb 12th 2010 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/bada bing bada boom.]]>Feb 12th 2010 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/@Balbasour +1 !]]>Feb 12th 2010 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
BIG bada boom]]>Feb 12th 2010 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
Babuh booey bahbuh booey!]]>Feb 12th 2010 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Hong Kong Phooey]]>Feb 12th 2010 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
As come analitics say it should be breakthrough device, so I'm waiting!]]>Feb 12th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
Seems that by moving to a new closed system is a bit like shooting themselves in the foot as Android is gaining significant traction.]]>Feb 12th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
I agree completely. Last thing customers want is another smartphone OS. It just doesn't make sense why they would spend all this time coming up w/ a new, custom OS, when Android is FREE.]]>Feb 12th 2010 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
not everyone is creaming their pants over android.]]>Feb 12th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
I think the Nexus one kinda hints at Googles strategy of giving android away and letting other companies push it into notoriety and then releasing phones of it's own (with a version of android that no one else has yet) to become a dominant phone company overnight.

Going back to Samsung and Bada can you now see why not every company wants to join in this dance? The Samsungs and Nokias of the world don't want to be tied down to an environment that inherently pulls mindshare from them and gives it to Google. Even if the Nexus one doesn't do it eventually Google will make a phone compelling enough to draw all/most of the android hardware sales back into itself.]]>Feb 12th 2010 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
Now if they can create an amazing phone with an amazing OS then they may have a shot but if they don't get it perfect (a likely scenario) then they could waste a few years trying to get this going when they could be supporting Android and getting good phone sales.]]>Feb 12th 2010 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Simple, because a huge part of the smartphone experience for end users is application support; and thats what a standardized and already popular OS like android or windows mobile brings to the table. Bada will fail; just like touchwiz failed and continues to fail. Samsung had this huge widget contest for touchwiz -- the winning results were absolute garbage. They are probably going to do the same thing except it will be like an application contest for BADA and I have no doubt the apps will be no match for already existing android and iphone apps. Mobile developers don't make that much money, and now Samsung wants them to port their app to yet ANOTHER platform? Not going to happen.]]>Feb 12th 2010 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/more OS = more competition = lower price
Nokia used to rule the smartphone market with symbian. they just lowerd its price on all of their smartphones because of strong competition from Apple , Android, RIM.

Nexus One cost less than $200 to manufacture but sells for over $500,, do you still think we don't need another OS??


]]>Feb 12th 2010 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
Perhaps the competition will make Android better but they already have far greater competition from the iPhone. More things does not always equal good competition.]]>Feb 12th 2010 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/The OS has nothing to do with the prices companies charge for the hardware, and everything to do with what people feel people will pay for it. And for modern smart phones with high end ARM chips, $500-$600 seems to be the going price for an unlocked unit.

Bada's problem is that it's YetAnotherMobileOS, with nothing going for it (every other OS has open and/or widely used frameworks.)]]>Feb 12th 2010 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/what if someone comes up with revolutionary OS with same specs as Droid or Nexus One , but much lower price? would you not consider to buy one? another OS is not a problem , it is just another OS. and another OS means more phones. more phones means more competition. ]]>Feb 12th 2010 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
there could never be enough competition

i'd rather use a bada powered phone than android. android is shit and has no worthwhile apps. Samsung is the 2nd biggest phone maker, and android has almost 1% marketshare. So go research before you post]]>Feb 12th 2010 10:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
Doing something that can set your phones apart while giving your company more of a reputation and building a solid customer base buying your phones for something other than the price/hardware is what builds loyal customers, and that's what I think smartphone mfg will need to do going forward if they want to have predictable and growing revenue streams.

Of course if it fails, this will be them shooting themselves in the foot. ]]>Feb 13th 2010 2:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Me likey.]]>Feb 12th 2010 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/_]]>Feb 12th 2010 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 12th 2010 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/
Seriously ... could Samsung have chosen a worse name?]]>Feb 12th 2010 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/Feb 17th 2010 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/samsung-wave-launching-bada-onto-its-very-first-handset-at-mwc/http://blog.itag.com/53/bada-tadaaa/]]>Feb 17th 2010 6:08PM