http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 8:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/I wish I could up-vote you more than once.]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
GARGLE NOO!!!]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
Bada bing Bada boom]]>Feb 13th 2010 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Isn't it using the new Bada samsung os? I'll reserve judgement until i see a video demo.]]>Feb 13th 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
and judging from samsung's promo pics last year for the i8910, only the formfactor seems to be believable. the pictures last year showed a metallic body too, which didn't actually happen, among other things like hdmi out]]>Feb 13th 2010 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/I tested out a touchwiz phone and almost threw up it was laggy and the interface is just rediculous. touch wiz was a INSTA-FAIL.]]>Feb 13th 2010 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
Hardware specs seem nice though. But I don't see anything particularly interesting.]]>Feb 13th 2010 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 9:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
Samsung Moment]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
The Omnia HD is an ok phone hardware-wise, but Samsung's software support is a disaster.]]>Feb 13th 2010 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
But is Samsung Bada OS good enough for me?

I want Android.
I Like WebOS
There's also iPhone OS, Symbian OS, Windows Mobile, RIM Blackberry OS, Nokia Maemo

IS THERE A POINT THERE THERE IS TOO MANY OS'S. That the amount expands to too many and the smart phone market collapses?
Or the new OS's after iPhone, WebOS, Android, Windows Mobile, and Blackberry are the supreme heads for smartphones?

In short. I need to check out Bada before its worth it for me.]]>Feb 13th 2010 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
I think issue #1 with so many OS's is apps.

iPhone
Android
Windows Mobile
WebOS
Blackberry
Maemo

All separate app stores. If Bada has an app store too. Starts off new just like WebOS and Android did. But at this point is it worth it?

But if you put in app compatibility into an OS to use other OS's apps too. Would that be bad to the apps market as developers wouldn't need to code for new apps as much and they just release it to 1 or 2 app markets?
]]>Feb 13th 2010 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/I don't really understand why they came up with this new OS..
I totally agree that there are way too many OS'es in the Market.
Sorry but I just don't see any real reason.. Except maybe the fact that they want to show off in a way like...
" We are Samsung and we ALSO can do an OS".
*Still no real reason.-]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
So out of the OSes that are truly flexible and not all about locking you into an app store for the manufacturer, WinMo sucks (hopefully only for now), and Android is free, and thus very anti-competitive. Unless Microsoft really comes out with something special with Winmo7, or gives it away for free, or a combination of both, I think that Android is going to be the only OS that isn't proprietary.

]]>Feb 13th 2010 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
Symbian phones are made by more than Nokia, i.e. Samsung Innov8 or the Sony Ericsson Satio]]>Feb 13th 2010 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
Symbian now belongs to the Symbian Foundation and is fully open-source (since 10 days ago): http://www.symbian.org/symbian-feature-set/symbian-is-open-source

I think it's going to be pretty nice, once they complete the transition to Qt. They'll have the openness of Android, a nice API and applications compiled to native code instead of Android's ultra-slow, interpreted Java.
]]>Feb 13th 2010 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
Unless developers can use 1 or 2 tools to develop apps that can be distributed to all these platforms (like Flash, AIR, etc.), there are already too many OSes. I have high hopes for Flash 10.1. Apple is the devil in these matters. Their refusal to embrace Flash and keep such a tight control over their platform.]]>Feb 14th 2010 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
I'm using flash for a cool Tower defense game and my laptop has a nasty habit of overheating very easy. My cpu is at 98 degrees Celcius while running this flash game.]]>Feb 14th 2010 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
Not every phone can have Android. Samsung must feel good about this new Bada OS. I mean these specs compare to the Nexus one in a way.]]>Feb 13th 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
the phone looks really nice though... :)

1GHz processor?
multitask = WIN
1 app at 1 time = just like iDevice (lame)]]>Feb 13th 2010 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
Funny you can't just type iPhone. It's less letters and you even capped the D in iDevice. You're so anti-hipster bro, right on. ]]>Feb 13th 2010 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
To be fair, the Mobile OSX extends beyond the iPhone, so iDevice isn't entirely inaccurate. You've got the iPhone, the iPod touch and now the iPad.]]>Feb 13th 2010 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
So you require the Dell Mini 5's 5" screen to be satisfied?]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Nah. Just something around 3.8". ;)]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
Anything over 3.3" would make this phone too big to be easily pocketable.

The only way to have a bigger screen then, is to make a phone like HD2, which has a very small bezel. But then you might also have to sacrifice the front facing camera.. the HD2 surprisingly doesn't have one.]]>Feb 13th 2010 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
After what you did to Galaxy i7500 customers by not releasing an update to Android 1.6, 2.0 or even 2.1 I hope you manage to update your own OS on your phones.]]>Feb 13th 2010 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Nokia is using symbian or maemo
Apple is using iphone os
RIM is using blackberry os
(etc....)
So major mobile companies are using their own os.
Why should Samsung be exception, guys???
Competition is always good.
]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
Until you have a fragmented market. Then every phone will eventually be like today's phone with phone OS's specific to each phone or maker and its too much.

What if LG made a premium phone OS.
How about Pantech?
HTC?

You need market leaders in the tech world.
Windows, Mac OS X, Linux [Ubuntu], Google Chrome, Android [Some Smartbooks]

There's competition and there's choice.

We're getting to a point where tech is being inconvenient because services are fragmented. Compatibility is an issue. Things aren't integrated like we hoped they would be.]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/In the mobile phone world, market leaders are Nokia, Samsung, and LG.
A point where tech is being inconvenient is few companies have a monopoly on the market. ]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
I understand that outside of the US, Nokia is king

But what I mean is that too many OS's or platforms is bad for convenience which is what people aim for in tech, isn't it?]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
Too many OS or platforms might be bad, but you should consider outside of the US. Do you believe Android, iPhone OS, and Blackberry are major OSs outside of the US? No.... ]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/I fell in their trap with the Omnia i900 some years ago and after that I always avoided their smartphones even when they looked kind of tempting, and watched my friends getting screwed with their OmniaHD and Jet; I moved to HTC HD2 and a little Hero (to be substituted asap with a Bravo or equivalent Snapdragon/android combo) and I've never been happier.
Good looks are important but in a smartphone are not the most important thing and dozens of new buggy models a year are not substitute for a single good working and well supported device.
Methinks.

]]>Feb 13th 2010 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Agreed 100%. Samsung support and software dev team and the experience after you buy the product -- SUCKS. They never fix any bugs, they just linger until their next product comes along and they rope you into buying that one. Samsung will never live up to HTC, Nokia, or Apple in the smartphone business...Featurephones, that is a diff. story. They shold stick to what they know and do best; they should get out of the smartphone business and stick entirely to featurephones.]]>Feb 13th 2010 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/Feb 13th 2010 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/samsung-s8500-wave-caught-in-a-spigot-of-leaks/
consider even higher res, full HD, 1280 x 720 = 921,600

count 'em, less than a million, i.e, 1Mega pixel!!

[if you want to divide by 3 then you'll need a paltry 3 Mp]

aaah, the great "HD" swindle.]]>Feb 13th 2010 1:13PM