http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/ Engadget Comments for Does tracking your phone's location violate your Fourth Amendment rights? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 7:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Nobody needs to know where I am, ever!]]>Feb 15th 2010 7:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Sounds like a good night to me tbh]]>Feb 15th 2010 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
great movie!!]]>Feb 15th 2010 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/You think you are innocent until they use GPS to track everyone that attended Michael Moore's latest movie or who is attending the latest Tea Party... you think you have nothing to track but when it comes to National Security the only threats are YOU... at least according to the patriot act and airport security.]]>Feb 15th 2010 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/you mean reading engadget?]]>Feb 16th 2010 12:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
I take is as you are not married]]>Feb 16th 2010 7:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
And my Blackberry 9700, which does have those features, sometimes rides in my pocket as my media player, and sometimes gets a SIM card when i need to tether or whatnot... ]]>Feb 16th 2010 7:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
I just can't wait until local governments start issuing speeding tickets based on your GPS track. The computer will send you a letter stating you were going over the speed limit at a date and location. The last line will read "That will be $124 per violation, please."]]>Feb 16th 2010 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
You know, that's pretty easy to say when you think of anyone who is a "suspected criminal" as being guilty. But the first time law enforcement tracks you or busts in your door because they have some circumstantial reason to suspect you, I'd bet you'd probably be singing a different tune.

That line, "innocent until proven guilty" is much more than a catchy slogan. It's a fundamental policy which separates us from countries like China and N. Korea.

Hell, I don't even let the cop search my car if he asks when I get pulled over. They always ask why, and my answer is the same: "No offense, officer, but I served as a U.S. Marine to defend this country and it's liberties - I can't simply give up those rights just because you requested it."]]>Feb 15th 2010 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 16th 2010 1:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 17th 2010 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
Ha, no, and it's been years now. But in 2001 I bought a 1995 Mustang GT, then had Ford put a completely rebuilt 302 (5.0L) in it... I was 22 and liked to drive very fast down I-75 in Florida.]]>Mar 26th 2010 11:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/doublepost. srry]]>Feb 15th 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Very good point. It's kind of like email. You don't want warrantless access, but you fully expect it to be used in court if there is a warrant.]]>Feb 15th 2010 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Reading the article though, this is specifically talking about warrantless tracking of phone location.]]>Feb 15th 2010 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
and a sub-amendment requiring the person the warrant is against be notified before any action can be taken against said person

my privacy is FAR MORE IMPOTENT then anyones right to know]]>Feb 15th 2010 8:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 16th 2010 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
Please take this into consideration. Thanks. :)]]>Feb 15th 2010 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Where is the offensive part of your comment? It didn't have a question or even an insult, you just pointed out a fact.]]>Feb 15th 2010 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/of course I agree with you but...
They use subjective words like that in order to portray a sense of opinion. So people understand that it is the authors opinion and not fact or truth.]]>Feb 15th 2010 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
..you know, either that, or I'm being too meticulous.. :)]]>Feb 15th 2010 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/I see what you did there
lqtm]]>Feb 15th 2010 9:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Soon everything will be like it is in THX 1138. And we won't even notice the transition.]]>Feb 15th 2010 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen//s]]>Feb 15th 2010 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
Seriously.

The way Americas have tolerated all manner of Constitution violating for "free cash" from DC, now they perk up over this? This is just par for the course.]]>Feb 15th 2010 8:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
What you are describing is Communism and is the direct opposite of what our founding fathers sought out to achieve.

The problem is that people are only equal in the point that we are all created in a the same basic image. What differs us is our personal drive. The founding fathers new this and their desire to have the freedom to achieve peoples individual dream through their own ambition is why they created a democratic country where anyone born here can be president rather then it being determined by your bloodline like it was in England.]]>Feb 15th 2010 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
Reminds me I need to watch it again.]]>Feb 15th 2010 8:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
I literally just watched that today when I got it from Netflix...

Creepy Engadget, creepy]]>Feb 16th 2010 4:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin]]>Feb 16th 2010 7:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/I had to do a debate over whether or not GPS tracking violated The fourth amendment rights.]]>Feb 15th 2010 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/That case regarded STALKING. He illegal placed a tracking device on another person car. He was not a legal authority or deputized agent. He was not following anything related to Due Process. This case is 12 years old, and there have been newr cases with regard to police use of tracking devices, upheld by the supreme court (higher than Wisconsin), and not requiring a warrant. See United States v. Knotts and United States v. Karo.

Monitoring where you go, and come and go, can be done with human eyes, in public, or through the use of witnesses, transaction records, camera footage, and more, and therefore does not constitute a search. Positional GPS is a fine grained tracking device, accurate to within meters. However, Tower Location Services provided by cell companies, should a user CHOOSE to leave it enabled (or with a warrant, officers can force a provider to remotely enable a disabled location service on a PED), that the accuracy of a location service is only reliable to within several hundred meters. Following due process, and a written request to a provider (electronic), location information about a known person of interest, data an officer can already provide about that person clarifying an identity, and within a specific time window, is simple processes common to any law enforcement procedure for collecting information about a person's whereabouts during the act of a crime, or to establish alibi.

Naturally, Due Process is inherent to this idea. Access of this data WITHOUT due process could easily be illegal, especially if it involves learning the location or habits of an individual who is known to the officer or known to an acquaintance (checking in on a girlfriend for example). However, there is no real time monitoring of this data, nor can the data be obtained without providing a known identity, further, law enforcement is BILLED for this access, per record received, and that's going to have to be justified to a supervisor vs. an active case file. Officers can easily and quickly be imprisoned for accessing records like this, and they know it. The same system exists for pulling phone records (which also requires no warrant today), and it is equally not abused.

If you seek to be private, you can easily disable the tracking system in your cell phone. Then only with a warrant can you be located (unless they just attach a device to your car which requires no warrant unless they have to enter an areas of your property already covered by the need for a warrant to get to the car, called curtailment). ]]>Feb 17th 2010 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/Feb 15th 2010 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/does-tracking-your-phones-location-violate-your-fourth-amendmen/
First they took away my privacy, but I didn't care because I had nothing to hide. Then they took away habeas corpus, but I didn't care because I wasn't a criminal. Then they took away my right to assemble, but I didn't care because I didn't demonstrate. Then they took away my free speech, but I didn't care because I never spoke out. Then they decided to throw me in prison, and nobody dared speak out against them for me.]]>Feb 15th 2010 9:33PM