http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/ Engadget Comments for iPhone 3GS pitted against Nexus One in 3D frame rate test (video) http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 2:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://goo.gl/aHXX
OR Click:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/reviews/2010/01/nexus-one-review.ars/4 ]]>Feb 15th 2010 6:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Another comparison videos (Nexus 1 vs Acer Liquid vs Motorola Dext vs HTC Hero) running Neocore for benchmarking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvzxZ8tOBcQ&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_d43qICTCA&feature=player_embedded]]>Feb 15th 2010 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
iPhone - 320x480 = 153K Pixels
Nexus One - 800x480 = 384K Pixels (2.5 times more)

For those that look at video/gaming benchmarks online, you notice a significant FPS difference when moving between resolutions. Apples to Oranges here.]]>Feb 15th 2010 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/But is the nexus actually pushing that many pixels, or does the benchmark use the same resolution on each phone? It seems ridiculous to me that a benchmark would test two different resolutions. Just because the screen has more pixels doesn't mean the program is rendering more, and that's what's important.

can anyone confirm?]]>Feb 15th 2010 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
Ya, i'm hoping that the benchmark did in fact test at the same resolution otherwise this data is useless. ]]>Feb 15th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
WTF??? So a 1 year old phone performs better than a brand-spanking-new phone? What's the final verdict on whether screen resolution has an impact on the test or not. I think I'm reading the test was exactly equal on both devices.]]>Feb 15th 2010 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 16th 2010 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 2:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
This. I just compiled a kernel for the Nexus (open source ftw?)

It is based off cyanogen's source code, so it has the extra ram enabled.

My tweak however, was overclocking it to 1.113ghz.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633238

Enjoy :)]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 2:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
"One of the most important differences between these two devices is the fact that the Nexus has a much higher resolution screen, which means that the GPU has to fill 2.5 times as many pixels on the Nexus than it does on the iPhone. OK, so let’s change the viewport on the Nexus to the same size as the iPhone just so we can compare the two equally. With just two characters on screen, switching the viewport size to 480×320 on the Nexus, give a frame-rate improvement from 30fps to 40fps but with 8 characters on screen there is no difference; with the frame-rate remaining the same at 21fps."]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Ya, so what's the point to use higher resolution ?
Consume more CPU and power ?
Lots of geek like to compare spec, instead of usability.]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
Higher resolution is an understatement, it well past a 2:1 ratio. That being said, as the Nexus one does have considerably better hardware it would be nice if it could keep up, but give that device another 3-6 months of optimization (The iPhone 3GS is sitting at roughly 7 months of consumer use as of now) and this test should yield much closer results.]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
That probably even makes it worse.

It's like having an even more beautiful video game, that you can't play.]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/That could just be because the Nexus colors are more compatible with the camera chip. But I'm def. gonna compare it when to my iPhone when it becomes available in stores here :)

Both framerates are acceptable to me, and having 854x480, true black and Flash? Sold!]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/"Ya, so what's the point to use higher resolution ? "

Uhm I dunno, maybe so you can see more of a webpage/email/game/calendar month?]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/mmm...so lemme get this straight, the nexus one is running exactly 2.5x as many pixels, and the iphone is running optimized arm neon floating point coding. how exactly is this a fair test? If anything, it'd be nice to see the palm pre/pre plus vs iphone and the nexusone vs the HD2]]>Feb 15th 2010 3:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
Yeah because that would in reality be determined by a higher resolution - not a bigger screen size.

Fitting in more on the same size screen wouldn't mean it would be smaller and less usable at all, straight on.]]>Feb 15th 2010 4:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
Enjoy playing your Wii on a janky old CRT.]]>Feb 15th 2010 4:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 5:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
Spin how ever you want to make you feel better. ]]>Feb 15th 2010 9:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 16th 2010 7:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 2:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 2:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 3:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/I would get Olivia Munn (from Attack of the show) to be on Engadget Show, shes hot.]]>Feb 15th 2010 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 4:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 2:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Why do people still say that the human eye can't see above xx FPS?]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
But the point here is that you can run more polygons, textures, etc before the system chokes on one platform than the other.

It just so happens that this demo runs at 60fps.]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
The frequency of the response isn't linear across wavelength (color) either; it's easy to rig up a breadboard with red, blue, and green LEDs, and either a function generator or a timer IC you can change. Run the tests yourself.

The surprising thing is that response varies significantly from person to person...]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
I have the Samsung 2233RZ monitor and an nVidia GTX 295 in my system. When I play Crysis in DirectX 10 mode, I get about 20 FPS. When I play in DX 9 mode, I get 60. My eyes can certainly see a difference.]]>Feb 15th 2010 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
It's easy to tell the difference of frame rates.
Halo 3 runs at 640p at 30 fps, while Call of Duty 4 (and I'm assuming MW2 does as well) runs at 600p at 60 fps. While it's not hard to adjust between the different games, there is a noticeable difference going from one to the other. Although I agree I don't want to watch a movie that looks like a soap opera.]]>Feb 15th 2010 3:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://kimpix.net/2006/12/03/60fps-vs-24fps/]]>Feb 15th 2010 4:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 2:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
gaming on a phone makes me rofl]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/What's the top profit category in iTune App Store ? Games. ]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/How much less could you care? I will go ahead and make the assumption that as of right now you care deeply about it.]]>Feb 15th 2010 3:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 3:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/If by loss you mean massive profit then... well yes.

It's their 'loss.']]>Feb 15th 2010 4:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/You didn't read the article:
"OK, so let’s change the viewport on the Nexus to the same size as the iPhone just so we can compare the two equally. With just two characters on screen, switching the viewport size to 480×320 on the Nexus, give a frame-rate improvement from 30fps to 40fps but with 8 characters on screen there is no difference; with the frame-rate remaining the same at 21fps."]]>Feb 15th 2010 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/Feb 15th 2010 2:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
And I'll say 90% of those wii's are sitting there collecting dust. Yes, i pulled that number out of my ass, but it's true :P]]>Feb 15th 2010 3:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/iphone-3gs-pitted-against-nexus-one-in-3d-frame-rate-test-video/
Because made up statistics hold so much weight in internet arguments...]]>Feb 15th 2010 3:52AM