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419 euro would be a great price (in comparizon to other smartphones)! I hope that listing is right!]]>Feb 17th 2010 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
Expansys £449.. stop. April 12th.. stop.

http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=196001]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Damn, indeed cheap price, compared to N1 +500€...]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
£398 http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=32C8AD9B-E300-4267-BEC1-DE55F02D0184]]>Mar 8th 2010 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/i'll GTFO.]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
- hardware buttons (better looking and more responsive)
- optical trackpad!
- better speaker placement
- built in Sense
- 576mb
- better video frame rate

AT&T's new 'smartphone' extortion policy can GTFO

extra $50 premium over n1 sounds reasonable to me]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Dude, it's like €100($137) cheaper than N1. Not $50 pricier.
We are talking here about European prices.]]>Feb 17th 2010 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
- hardware buttons (better looking and more responsive)
- optical trackpad!
- better speaker placement
- built in Sense
- 576mb
- better video frame rate

Sounds really good right???? WRONG!! It does NOT have the dual mics, therefore no noise cancellation. It is a phone after all. For someone(like me) who value the phone function the most, would still have to go to the N1(And guess what, back to no AT&T 3G).

I just don't really understand why can't they just make one thing that is perfect. e.g. HD2 with android or Desire with dual mics]]>Feb 18th 2010 12:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
DUDE what planet your from?? do your math, it said 419 Euro ($579) I got my n1 for $529 or 388 Euro so N1 is $50 pricier. unless you're not in the states. then i feel sorry for you for paying more than that.

@unquick

it's all about what's more important to the individual user. in your case dual mic. in mine, i'm willing to sacrifice just that for some physical buttons + a newer technology (optical trackpad!) it's like upgrading to an optical mouse from a roller ball mouse back then + better placement on the speaker (man speaker on the back blows i always ended up having to flip the phone so the sound doesn't get so distorted or completely block out. so Hell Yes i would give up the dual mic for just these improvement listed above. it just makes more Sense. ]]>Feb 18th 2010 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Atleast I am not from Moronlandia.
The article is about price in EUROPE! These prices has nothing to do with US prices, since you have gadgets there much cheaper, because US economy is crap.
Got it?
N1 price in EU +700$ and Desire now also +700$.
N1 price in the US +500$ and Desire unknown( Obvious that it would be +500$).]]>Feb 19th 2010 5:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
MS is going the right direction, but I think I'll stick with Google. By the time they actually ship a Windows Phone 7 Series Engadget will be drooling over the DROID 2 and Nexus 2 with Android 3.0.

Android ftw.]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
iPhone FTW!!!]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/well engadget will be, but we (the educated and smart people) will not]]>Feb 18th 2010 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
Probably either 900\2100 or 900\1900\2100

The only one that could possibly work is 1900 on AT&T, but they only use that in some cities. Most places for AT&T use 850.]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Nickelback?]]>Feb 17th 2010 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/yes, i would like so, but its more important to have a network than an band. but nickelback ftw!]]>Feb 18th 2010 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
I hope google will also finally offer the nexus one in Germany]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
uhh i should read the product site: Quad-Band UMTS (GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz) as at&t is on 850 it should work]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/What kind of absurd country would actually list the price you pay?]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/i suppose that was irony...i thougth in the us they list prices without VAT or something...maybe i'm missinformed...german taxation laws are enough for two lifespans]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Haha, silly european dates.]]>Feb 17th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Silly? I really don't understand why Americans mix up the order of the length of time; medium/least/most (mm/dd/yy) instead of increasing least/medium/most (dd/mm/yy)]]>Feb 18th 2010 4:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
Actually it's worse than that. It has a couple of features missing from the Nexus (noise cancelling etc...) and so therefore should be cheaper.]]>Feb 18th 2010 5:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/If the N1 were available I'd have bought it but now I'll jsut get the Desire.
One question: what can the N1 do that the Desire can't? Does it have everything? 2 mics e.g.? Voice recognition?]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/the voice recognition is android, but the dual mics was made by htc...]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Ok but that doesn't answer my question. Does it have everything the N1 has, hardwarewise?]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Thanks, that's good to hear.
Now I'll just have to wait if I really get it at that price.]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/One question I ahve asked several times with no answer (for the N1):
1. Can you turn off Sense if you don't like it and have the normal 2.1 theme?
2. Can you choose the old, 1.5 theme (clear blue with analog clock?)
Thanks]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/The Desire does not have the dual mics. As far as I know, that's the only thing it lacks in comparison to the N1, but to make up for it there are the hardware buttons, flash support, and sense UI. Those may not be a big deal to a lot of people, but I consider them huge bonuses.
I want this phone in the US. Now.]]>Feb 17th 2010 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 10:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Thanks you 2 for your answers!]]>Feb 18th 2010 1:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/
http://www.amazon.de/HTC-Smartphone-Aluminium-Geh%C3%A4use-Android/dp/B0038JDF2K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1266445108&sr=1-1

That's €40,- more than their listed price for the desire!
Still, it would be sweet if this would be the final price]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Well I lready ordered it. We'll see. I can remember a similar cast before Christmas and they sold the device for the cheaper price for those who preordered.
If it's a mistake and I get it I'm happy, if not I won't sue them anyway.]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Thanks for the tip. Mine is now ordered, too.]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Hope you get it, I'll have to wait till june when my contract runs out, I'm hoping it will stay at this price point]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/htc-desire-listed-for-419-at-amazons-german-portal/Feb 17th 2010 7:57PM