http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/My Q6600 is still going strong, doesn't seem like that long ago i bought it but that's the thing with tech these days, by the time i can afford it something newer comes out the next day.]]>Feb 17th 2010 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
I still rock my Q6600 on a badaxe2 mobo with 8gigs of memory. love it. use it for a hackintosh]]>Feb 17th 2010 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
not to mention E8400-E8600 are still damn good since they easily overclock to over 4ghz.

my e8400 is at 4.2ghz stable on air for over a year now.]]>Feb 17th 2010 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
Q6600 FTW, I see no real reason to upgrade]]>Feb 17th 2010 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Same here, mine has to last at least 18 month more as my main PC. Here in Argentina it's not so easy to switch hardware every time something new appears ]]>Feb 17th 2010 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
The newest and greatest is only about twice as fast as q6600. No point to upgrade yet.]]>Feb 17th 2010 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
There's a balance to be struck somewhere between getting the most use out of electronics and reducing waste vs. advances in power consumption. It could at least be plotted for cost analysis but I'm not sure how you could figure it out for environmental impact...]]>Feb 17th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Q6600@3.2GHz
48501GB
4GB ram
built it on BlackFriday '08 for ~$750, this black friday added $140 1080p 23"
Gonna upgrade my GPU this Black Friday, CPU in 2011]]>Feb 17th 2010 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Same here. I will wait another year before I upgrade. Its annoying that you always have to get new RAM, new mobo etc. Would be so much better if I could just replace the CPU on its own. An i7 would require a new board, and the i7 boards seem ridiculously expensive and require DDR3 (I currently have 4GB DDR2). When I can do that for under £300 I will do the upgrade.

My last step up was from a P4 3GHz and the improvement that the Q6600 brought was huge.]]>Feb 17th 2010 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
Yup! i still have my q6600 and love the little bad boy... its my powerhorse. I have kinda been kicking around the idea of upgrading to the i7 but i think i might just skip this generation of chips and wait for next years... lol...]]>Feb 17th 2010 9:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 18th 2010 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3634

Its faster, and if you want to overclock, the i870 is the winrar.

Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz 4 / 8 2.93GHz 130W $284
Intel Core i7 870 2.93GHz 4 / 8 3.60GHz 95W $562]]>Feb 17th 2010 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3634]]>Feb 17th 2010 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
i7-920 is the better choice it can easily be o/c to 4 ghz on air. It also runs 3 channels for memory compare to the 2 in i7-870.

Also if one were to run SLI or Crossfire, then it is a no brainer to choose the i7-920 over i7-870.
]]>Feb 17th 2010 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
1. LGA 1156 parts overclock really well too, i5 750 can easily be pushed to 4Ghz with decent cooling, the i7 800s even more so.
2. Triple channel memory makes almost zero real-world difference compared to dual-channel, except maybe in the odd 3D rendering benchmark.
3. SLI/CrossfireX can be run on P55 motherboards at 8x/8x (which doesn't hit performance compared to 16x/16x, unless you're doing quad graphics). Some high-end P55 motherboards have an nForce 200 chip if you need 16x/16x/8x for triple/quad graphics.

Couple that with the lower power and thermal requirements of LGA 1156, plus superior clock-for-clock performance and a better turbo boost implementation, it is actually the i7 860/870 that is the no-brainer compared to the i7 920.]]>Feb 17th 2010 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
All your points are valid, but would you want to pay more for an i7-870 over an i7-920?

]]>Feb 17th 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
Hell, most of my rigs are still running Q6600s, and my main one only a Q6850. Good enough for me. =)]]>Feb 17th 2010 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
Yes, it all depends on what you want to achieve, once you start overclocking, the efficiency of the stock power consumption goes out the window. I don't think the cost of x58 mobos over P55 mobos with similar features along with 3 channel rams over 2 channel rams does not make up for a $300 difference for the chip itself.

]]>Feb 17th 2010 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
I noticed that as well, it might have something to do with them factoring-in launch/list prices, I don't know, and I can't be bothered to find that one out. Anywoo, all that really matters is current street price, and over here at least they go for pretty much the same:

860: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172754

920: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151477

...notice that both are from the same e-tailer.]]>Feb 17th 2010 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115213&cm_re=i7_870-_-19-115-213-_-Product

i7-920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202&cm_re=i7_920-_-19-115-202-_-Product]]>Feb 17th 2010 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
lol didn't notice that...I thought there was only the one 8xx i7, my bad. I thought as the 1156 was meant to be the mainstream socket the 860 was gonna be as far as they went there. What is so much better about 870 then?
]]>Feb 17th 2010 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

Pretty much any CPU made benchmarked. =)]]>Feb 17th 2010 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
Awesome website! Thanks. Mine ranked okay I guess, 1100 or so.]]>Feb 17th 2010 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAND! ]]>Feb 17th 2010 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
And that's why MHz don't really matter.]]>Apr 11th 2010 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
You like the word extreme?]]>Feb 17th 2010 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/In Soviet Russia, i7-975 Extreme now all of a sudden wants you. Soviet Russia wonders why.

And I wonder why I felt compelled to write this comment, it's not even funny.]]>Feb 17th 2010 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 8:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 18th 2010 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/Feb 17th 2010 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
i know right? i love amd for their great prices and awesome price/performace, but i almost wish they'd pull an intel and release a couple ridiculous procs (both price and performace).]]>Feb 17th 2010 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
I do not encode video. CD ripping (with AAC encoding) is fast enough. Nor do I run synthetic benchmarks.

Why waste money on something I cannot utilize fully?

P.S. Actually only thing which might me make the upgrade - to e.g. i5 - is the lower power consumption. Though in context of PC upgrade, the savings would be immediately /wasted/ on faster GPU.]]>Feb 17th 2010 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
The thing about video encoding is that you probably aren't in a terrible hurry. If you rip an entire season of something, it's going to take a while to transcode. It doesn't matter how fast your rig is. It's going to be a long batch process. So speeding it up a little bit is not necessarily that exciting.
]]>Feb 17th 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/pentium-4-takes-on-modern-cpus-in-a-benchmarking-showdown/
I do encode video. My old P4 rig took 20 minutes to compress a 5 minute segment to MPEG for a DVD.

My new Q8300 rig does a 5 minute segment in 2.5 minutes.

So... compressing an hour-long DVD in Adobe Encore used to take 4 hours... now it only takes 30 minutes.

Every little bit helps.]]>Feb 17th 2010 2:50PM