http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/ Engadget Comments for HP to undercut iPad price, iPad to undercut Amazon e-books prices, Courier to rule them all? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 2:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
If they put a 7 on it, it would be the best thing ever. Guaranteed.]]>Feb 18th 2010 2:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
For device such as the Courier, it might be wise to use a powerful/streamlined, yet flexible, mobile operating system, and with Microsoft's WinPho 7s/Metro fresh out of the oven, it could make for a rather 'tasty' combination.]]>Feb 18th 2010 2:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
Isn't It!

I feel all dirty (in a good way) just thinking about the possibilities.]]>Feb 18th 2010 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/PC-like functionality (multitasking, flash etc. without overstepping its boundaries) combined with "Metro" and including elements of the videos we have seen of the Courier, is the iPad we all want]]>Feb 18th 2010 3:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/I would be happy if they released a version as close as possible to the one in the videos. An interactive notebook nothing more, nothing less. This would also help to keep the price down.]]>Feb 18th 2010 3:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 3:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
Prototype examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIgNfp-MdI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFQWc79TYcU

Looks awesome! MS are really getting back!]]>Feb 18th 2010 3:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
Aesthetically, it sure looks to be a part of the Metro/WinPho7s family (unsurprisingly).

Additionally: Wow! Every time I see that video, I get all happy inside.]]>Feb 18th 2010 3:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
How many Ap...er... "Experience Stations" does it have


LMFAO]]>Feb 18th 2010 4:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 5:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
That's what many said about Apple's 'New Creation' and BAM! There It Was.

Question: Why is it that Apple can effectively conceal such a thing, and Microsoft not?

It's obvious that the Microsoft team is fully capable of keeping pretty big secrets these days, especially given that Windows Phone 7 Series seemed to take every major media circle/industry insider by complete surprise.

We'll See Soon Enough...]]>Feb 18th 2010 8:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://bit.ly/apple-ipad-under-scrutiny
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I'd venture that it'll have at least enough to provide the end-user a most complete media experience that will (at least) include FM/HD? radio reception, an 'all-you-can download' music download subscription service for only US 15.00 that includes the users permanently owning 10 tracks per month, as well as much wider codec support than its Cupertino competition.

So you say you like Apple? Tell Me How You Like 'Them' Apples? LOL!]]>Feb 18th 2010 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
I wouldn't exactly say "Bam, there it was". More like, there it wasn't. Almost none of the features that people were interested in made it into the mythical iPad. It's called a pad, and they didn't even demo the ability to write on the thing. Can it do that?

*** Droid doe--. ****

Oh, shut up, Droid. Go lose your keyboard and Gold Michael Keaton trim and then get back with me.]]>Feb 18th 2010 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
Well... No, No It Can't (at least not at this stage), though I'm sure that's just Apple's way of 'providing the very best user experience', as they don't feel you (the user) need handwriting ability/recognition until they feel see fit to provide said feature. (You know like they did with color displays, video playback, and FM radio - LOL!)

Sadly, the Apple-blind will accept this glaring absence (common on every Windows-based slate/tablet/convertible PC ever made) based solely on the aforementioned ridiculous declaration.

Oh Well... They'll add it in a couple of years, and proclaim it the most 'Magical' feature ever. :-p]]>Feb 18th 2010 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Because this thing only exist in the minds of wishful thinkers. And why is HP's iSlate running MS software? I guess we'll see come March.]]>Feb 18th 2010 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/You MSFT fan boys are too out of control. Seriously?]]>Feb 18th 2010 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=049_U-0C9qU&feature=related microsot tablet prototype "codex"
courier in labs]]>Feb 19th 2010 7:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
This is a well known tactic from MS when they are caught flatfooted (again and again) and don't have any real products to match Apples.
It is also known as vaporware.]]>Mar 8th 2010 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 2:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+garbage

Hmmm, apparently google disagrees with you]]>Feb 18th 2010 2:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/hahaha....]]>Feb 18th 2010 2:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 2:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
:)]]>Feb 18th 2010 3:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
You still cyber slapped him good though :P]]>Feb 18th 2010 4:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Despite the fact that I don't like you being so obnoxious, I will agree with you that HP pretty much messed up their slate line abandoning the wining TC1000/TC1100 format and jumping on the convertible bandwagon. The fact that a product a decade ahead of its time is not an excuse to abandon. Some of have recognized its value, and have been apreciating it since launch. Now iApple has stolen HP's thunder making them look like a looser.]]>Feb 18th 2010 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 2:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
so by the time the Slate makes an appearance it could be too late, regardless of the price of the ipad. because folks could see the ipad, touch it, play with it, buy it]]>Feb 18th 2010 2:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
Maybe, but most consumers don't see US 500.00 to 829.00 gadgets as impulse buys, so they actually do a bit of research.

As it stands, they don't need to {click} on very many Google search links to discover that even the experts are approaching the iPad with a degree of trepidation as it appears pretty feature-deficient/half-baked at this point.

We'll See Soon Enough...]]>Feb 18th 2010 2:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Mar 8th 2010 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Mar 9th 2010 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 2:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/These days, lots of people spend all day reading text from a monitor.]]>Feb 18th 2010 2:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
and we'll all be blind withing the next 25 years!]]>Feb 18th 2010 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 3:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/I like having books on my HD2 (the latest Sense upgrade includes an eBook reader tab which links to Borders. It good because whenever you have two minutes spare to read, you have your phone with you - very handy. I could never be bothered carrying a physical novel around.

That said, I wouldn't spend $10 (£7) on an electronic book. I can buy the latest popular paperback novels in the supermarket two for £7 so why would I pay £7 for one ebook? There is no material costs and the file sizes are tiny. Just seems like a rip-off to me. Its like mp3s - digital albums are usually cheaper since there is a saving on packaging and physical distribution etc.]]>Feb 18th 2010 5:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
Reading a computer screen "for work" is a very different experience. Even when I'm using the computer for leisure, I am usually multitasking and doing a variety of things during one sitting.

Recently, I haven't been able to surf the web at large during work time, so I've been reading books on PDF during down time (lunch, breaks). It's a very different experience when you're focused on one thing for an extended period of time. It's not that comfortable at all.]]>Feb 18th 2010 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
I think that you have to bare in mind that the iPad is not just an eBook Reader and that this changes the answer. If all the iPad did was present eBooks on its LED display then, no, I would not be very interested in the product. What makes it work for me is that it does a lot of other things, such as browsing the World Wide Web. That feature alone when combined with the hardware makes this device very desirable to me since it will make browsing the web both more comfortable and convenient.]]>Feb 18th 2010 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
...except you don't really browse the world wide web on the thing. You use 80s style "apps" to use websites that you would otherwise view in a generic browser on a regular Mac.

A largish media player with a browser that's not really that useful? Some of us already have such one of those. Except mine has a whole lot more room for video.]]>Feb 18th 2010 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 2:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
Really? I'm pretty sure that I bought my Hp/Compaq TC1000 back in February of 2003, and it had USB, a media card reader, and several other 'features' not present on Apple's (as yet unreleased) 'New Creation'.

http://www.thevooner.com/feature/2003/01/09/tc1000/tc1000.htm

So who followed whom?]]>Feb 18th 2010 2:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 2:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/Feb 18th 2010 3:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
They can build on the top of all criticism of the iPad like: lack of multitasking, lack of camera, flash support(well duh!) and other things. They get to read all of those analysis and bashing and build on top of that.

Dunno if they did this on purpose or not but it was a very lucky move since could have been that the iPad could well be worth something instead of just an iPod on steroids.]]>Feb 18th 2010 3:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/"So who followed whom?"

let's see...

The iPad is a multitouch device, that is stylus driven.

Also, Apple has patent applications going back a few years that forecast the release of an iPad device. It isn't like they suddenly decided one night to make a tablet and then slapped one together in a half-hour.

The HP slate was a slap-dash attempt to beat Apple to the multitouch tablet market. The CES keynote message was loud and clear:

"See? We have multitouch tablets and we're announcing them BEFORE a certain company that shall not be mentioned here! What's that? you want to see what features it has? Ok, Let me show it jerkily flip through some pages... See? That's pretty much something exactly what App- I mean that other company would do... well... kinda... HEY, Get your credit cards ready for this folks!"

The reason why they need to take time is because the slate is not done. What was shown, was barely a prototype. Apple already announced their specs and price. WHY hasn't HP?

If they want to undercut and are capable of doing so, it won't be that hard to put the word out. Apple put their cards on the table already and yelled CALL. ]]>Feb 18th 2010 6:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/wait... the slate isnt finished?
have you actually seen the ipad, the thing is a piece of crap.
has barely any of the functionality of the slate or other tablet PC's

youre also gonna have a lot of eye problems reading long novels off of the ipads screen, its why e-ink screens are so popular, because people like their eyes, theyre useful, you should like them too, you can gawp at steve jobs' 'brand new and never done before' product

Oh, and MS courier with winpho7s would be amazing, cant wait to see what it has on it :D
]]>Feb 18th 2010 7:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/hp-to-undercut-ipad-price-ipad-to-undercut-amazon-e-books-price/
"The HP slate was a slap-dash attempt to beat Apple to the multitouch tablet market. The CES keynote message was loud and clear:"

The same idiotic "Apple invented everything, and everyone else is copying Apple and doing a poor job" meme. As the years go by, the sadder it becomes.

#1 The iPad is a thin slate running the iPhone OS. What exactly did they do that was so out of this world?

It is a "duh" device. Take an existing OS developed for a phone and then just tack it onto a device with a larger screen.....poorly as the homescreen illustrates. Give it a hook of being able to read books, and call it a day.

Most of the people who aren't just gushing at the chance to buy an Apple device, cant really give you a honest reason as to what this is supposed to be the primary motivation of buying one.

""See? We have multitouch tablets and we're announcing them BEFORE a certain company that shall not be mentioned here! What's that? you want to see what features it has? Ok, Let me show it jerkily flip through some pages... See? That's pretty much something exactly what App- I mean that other company would do... well... kinda... HEY, Get your credit cards ready for this folks!""

There have been slates and tablets...some with multi-touch long before Apple said (dare I say?) "me too". but of course they were ALL just reacting to a device that existed as a rumor for years, right?

"The reason why they need to take time is because the slate is not done. What was shown, was barely a prototype. Apple already announced their specs and price. WHY hasn't HP?"

Apple announced a device that is missing a list full of stuff people were expecting. It's obvious that those thing will be dumped in in later releases. So in essence it an "unfinished product" in the worst way. Congrats for them for announcing some specs and a price for a device that really should have been refined much more before they announced it.

Seriously though. It almost seem like Apple just kept hearing so many chants for a tablet device, they just thought to quickly get one out, with the least amount of effort, because they were sure it would make a splash, guaranteed. And the "iPad" kind a screams that.


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