http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
Little screens mean toddlers can use it.]]>Feb 24th 2010 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
I actually think the smaller form factor could be a major selling point to a lot of people.]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
Its quite unfortunate, but this does not mean the end. WebOS is one great OS, its too bad the hardware (which has by now been thoroughly fixed on Palm's end through consistent improvement on the assembly line) gave it a bad rap from the start. I really wish they would have pulled out all the stop with the Pre, swallowed taking a loss, all to generate enough phone sales/buzz/momentum to really be viable in this smartphone market of the next decade. I don't believe its over, but that window of opportunity is shrinking.

I am still proudly sporting my own Palm Pre, and I really do love the device and OS.]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
I truly doubt its the smaller screen (a lot of BB phones have similar, if not smaller screens than the Pre). I believe its the inital impressions of the quality of the hardware of the Pre, which people jumped to conclusions about saying it was a piece of crap. Admittedly the hardware could have been sturdier - especially with the slider on the launch-day Pre - but Palm did not do itself any favors by going ahead with it the way they did.]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Would you want your toddler to gnaw on it?]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
Palm is basically and Apple that has low sales, and a small market-share.

On the plus+ side I do like making fun of my friend with a Sprint Palm Pre since Verizon turned it into a mom phone.]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
you really don't know what kinds of software and systems development that go behind OS development, do you?]]>Feb 24th 2010 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 25th 2010 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/seriously, the phone is too small. it's so hard to read the letters on the phones. the font must be like 6 point.

and the keyboard is ridiculously small. there's no way a normal person can type on that thing. ]]>Feb 25th 2010 2:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
My observation is that a bigger screen supports the toddler]]>Feb 25th 2010 2:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
The death watch continues .....

Tthe Rube should brush up his resume and the dick-head at Elevation partners might need to take a calmative and explain to investors how they burned through hundreds of millions of their money.....]]>Feb 25th 2010 7:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Apr 1st 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/If they can revamp it, I'd consider picking one up to replace my iPhone.]]>Feb 24th 2010 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
So, you call more RAM, more storage space, and a (slightly) revamped exterior on the Pre Plus "A year old phone"? Not to mention the coinciding release of 3D games?

Was the iPhone 3G to 3GS any more of an upgrade? The 3GS is as old as the Sprint Pre, but it's still selling...

The Palm Pre Plus isn't a victim of old design. In my opinion, it has one of the best designs and user interfaces out there! I believe, however that it's a victim of poor advertising and lack of fruit logos.]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/The Apple logo doesn't sell the phone. Quit with the BS.
I didn't hear anything a revamped exterior. Doubling storage space isn't much when wasn't much to begin with. But the RAM increase is HUGE! It'd be great though if the Pre had a better app catalogue, maybe a snapdragon, and a higher res screen.
I don't want to fight. I like the Pre. But it doesn't have the backing the iPhone does to rest on it hands.
It's a multimedia phone like the iPhone, the Droid, Nexus One, etc... Besides the interface, I don't see much for choosing it over any other phone. People seem to be voting and their answer agree that's not enough. ]]>Feb 24th 2010 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
That being said I love webOS. And as far as the screen size/processor speed, I'm not a big fan of really increasing either. Every time I play with an iPhone I'm jealous of how big the screen is (even if we have the same resolution) but then I realize that I can fully browse with one hand on my Pre, whereas you end up doing a lot of up and down shuffling to use the iPhone one handed. Not a huge deal, but it is nice. And the phone doesn't take up my whole pocket like an iPhone does.

Personally, I think they should make the keyboard exactly like the keyboard on the Pixi, give it (at least) 32 GB of storage, and MAYBE increase the screen size just a hair. Now I'm the type that would be fine with a well executed slab (no hardware keyboard) but I doubt that's going to happen.

All in all, if Palm releases a new Pre in June on Sprint, I'll buy it. And if it sucks, I'll probably be getting a Windows Phone 7 Series device, because they look to be actually pretty sweet. And Xbox/Zune integration really gets me going.]]>Feb 24th 2010 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 25th 2010 1:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 27th 2010 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 25th 2010 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
Palm should have blown the wad on the launch and didn't.]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
Palm should have a brand new device this summer on Sprint.]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
What if Palm is the one making Sprint's 4G phone?! o_O]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
Possibly but Palm won't be appearing as Sprint's first 4G device. I think the HTC Supersonic (HD2 running Android) will wear that crown.]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/OR ON FRICKIN' AT&T FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

(Urge to kill . . . fading . . . fading . . . fading -- rising! Fading . . .)
]]>Feb 24th 2010 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 7:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
Better hardware, actual quality control, and more carriers. Your OS is nice, your hardware is a COMPLETE DISASTER. On paper, a 3.1 inch screened phone as your flagship is pretty lame. In reality, your 3.1 inch screened phone that wants to twist like an Oreo and type the letter T three times when you've only hit it once is unacceptable, especially almost a year later. Figure this sh*t out or fall by the wayside. Consumers aren't hurting for OS options.]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
Exactly. Palm has a nifty OS, but it's not mindblowing, and I don't think the user base has reached the critical mass needed for the ecosystem to stay competitive with the juggernauts out there.]]>Feb 24th 2010 8:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
It looks like an awesome phone, and I'd love to try out the webOS features.]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/

And better commercials also.]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
Sure they do, they just have to ask htc to make it for them like the palm treo pro]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/what about the Pre isn't high end?]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
The HVGA screen, and now the CPU]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Everything except the internals.]]>Feb 24th 2010 8:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/]]>Feb 24th 2010 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
Netcraft confirms: PALM is dying. Another crippling bombshell hit the PALM community as ... :-)
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Of course if they have seen the ad where it sells for $199 then it still benefits us to try to sell them the droid at the same price for a much higher profit.

just sayin']]>Feb 24th 2010 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Seriously. Phones for moms? Only if they had ads showing how they were also good phones for Dads, sons, cousins, construction workers, etc.]]>Feb 24th 2010 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 25th 2010 12:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/
Their marketing campaign has been failing spectacularly for quite some time now.]]>Feb 25th 2010 2:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/Feb 24th 2010 7:25PM