http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/ Engadget Comments for Wacom's new Cintiq 21UX pen display ups the sensitivity, skips the multitouch and 'affordability' options http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
Bet it's amazing for drawing on. The best things take a bit of sacrifice, apparently. At least 2000 isn't -too- bad for the best. Not like cameras that get up into the stratosphere.

Given that these are probably not made in huge quantities and appeal to businesses like mine with lots of artists needing to do game artwork, that doesn't help either.

This is the flagship huge model Cintiq, too. It follows that they will have a smaller model that costs half as much but is about as useful. And you could get a tablet with a Wacom digitizer, but you'd not be likely to get the very nice display panel.]]>Mar 1st 2010 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
You are paying for a very accurate screen that can completely revolutionize how you work on your art. I hear the same people who have no problem with a 600$ graphics card for gaming complaining about price.

I think the only things it's missing is a wireless video connection.]]>Mar 1st 2010 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
Yes, the price is a joke... A VERY BAD JOKE... no sale!
]]>Mar 1st 2010 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/2) I'm a "child", why, oh why does Engadget want to sell my internal organs? ]]>Mar 1st 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/thats because engadget doesnt know: no artists draw with too pencils/pens/brushes simultaneously. multitouch is for kids who wants to doodle.]]>Mar 1st 2010 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
...and at this ridiculous price point, I don't think multi-touch would be too much to ask.

I'm looking forward to trying out the iPad, sure it won't be anything near as accurate as this Wacom, but it should be a nice cheep alternative, a quarter of the price, a simple operating system thrown in for good measure and portable too. Yeah accuracy is nice but so is the ability to pick up your tablet on your coffee table and instantly start sketching away.

Wacom should be worried, they need to start innovating again or at least drop their prices so us poor artists can afford their products.]]>Mar 1st 2010 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
It doesn't exist. Maybe it could exist ... but it doesn't exist now. Anywhere. There are limited alternatives which add limited multi-touch capabilities while leaving out everything else which makes a cintiq a professional tool.

And in the near or far distant future when it does exist ... multi-touch will have to match what Wacom is describing the cintiq can already do: "gain instant control of up to four application-specific Touch Strip functions on each Touch Strip, such as brush size, zooming, scrolling and canvas rotation. Sixteen ExpressKeys (eight on either side of the display) boost productivity by providing quick access to keyboard shortcuts and modifier keys." Clumsy compared to ... what? Other than zoom & roatate, there is nothing to compare it with. Speaking of keyboards ... my wireless keyboard is about 12 inches from my cintiq-I don't have to "hunt for it."

Are you going to find this level of immediate, specific, customizable control, one handed, on ANY future iteration of a touch screen? The probability approaches zero. ]]>Mar 1st 2010 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
>1) Why skip the multitouch?

because Wacom dont have a patent for multi-touch and would have no way to argue(read milk) the artist, whom they think should be paying 2K for an overpriced under achieving tablet.
Wacom have been milking the same old patents for donkeys years now. They rely on a flock, much like jobs flock, to swear blind that Wacom products are worth every penny,when in reality these things cost $10 to $100 to manufacture in china. The tablets probably cost like $10 or $15 out of fab and end up costing anything anything up to 50 times what they actually cost to manufacture. There's nothing in there.cheep electronics,cheep plastic,a $2 pen. At least jobs is able to deliver a solid body these days and be creative. Wacom are still churning out the same old overpriced shiny plastic crap they've been doing for years.



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It would be worse with multitouch. Capacitve technology hasn't got the accuracy for artists.]]>Mar 1st 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
Multi-touch could help. No, not to use multiple pens. More for more dynamic input with your non-drawing hand, like for zooming with a pinch command (would be more accurate than the strips, which often go haywire and push in too far, etc.), picking tools without having to move your drawing hand, mixing colors, throttling opacity or color with your hand on a virtual fader while you draw with the other hand, any number of innovative things that I can't think of on the spot right here, but that will change the digital illustration game when they finally arrive.

But like CrescentDavid talked about above, this functionality that I want would require more than Wacom just adding it to hardware, it would require software to support it all. So no doubt it's a ways off.

What I had actually hoped/expected to see was LED backlighting, to keep things a little cooler on your hands and forearms as you lean on to it, and a much higher resolution screen. I like how more buttons have been added, that will definitely be handy.]]>Mar 1st 2010 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
It looks to be 4:3 aspect ratio... 1600x1200? And is it IPS? Wide-gamut or standard?]]>Mar 1st 2010 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
These are things I'd also like to know!]]>Mar 1st 2010 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
C&P from the US website:

Aspect Ratio 4:3
Screen size 21.3" diagonal (541 mm)
Display area 17" x 12.75"
(431.8mm x 323.9mm)
Native resolution UXGA (1600 x 1200 pixels)
Total pixels 1,920,000
Number of colors 16.7 million
Pixel pitch 0.27 mm x 0.27 mm
Brightness 200 cd/m2
Contrast ratio 550:1
Viewing angle 85°/85° H, 85°/85° V
Color management ICC profile, 6500° K whitepoint default
Color management control DDC/CI]]>Mar 1st 2010 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
Yeah, I was mainly waiting to see if they were going to do an update on their display. I guess not, which is unfortunate. ]]>Mar 1st 2010 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
>ChrisK15 - Wacom have a bamboo tablet that supports both multitouch and pen input. touch based zoom and rotation tools would speed up workflow significantly. You can use a strip for the same functionality easily in photoshop but that requires more movement and it'd make working with programs like Mudbox and Zbrush an absolute dream. ]]>Mar 1st 2010 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
Wacom have their tech locked down with patents, very, very securely.]]>Mar 1st 2010 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
Came here to say something like this. Not every electronic gadget should be affordable to your middle class average Joe. Just like as much as I'd love to own a Bobcat M-Series loader, I'm not a construction worker and couldn't justify the price.

/Dreams of plowing everything in sight...]]>Mar 1st 2010 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
It's not much different from the old one, they've just improved the build quality... adding the improvements from the 12wx (better unscratchable glass, touchstrips and things) and increasing the price slightly.

Seems like they weren't really wanting to update the thing this soon, but they got tired of people sending their screens in to be replaced every 6 months. :P]]>Mar 1st 2010 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
As a designer and using this product it had its flaws. And NONE of them were really in the design but more the software and LCD screen. Color matching and color correctness was a large problem i had and still have with the old one so i hope the fixed that and there new pens are much better.

No multitouch is what ever because in the end of the day it would just get in the way of an artist hand...unless they had complex software to recognize hand position.

Still think the price is a little steep but it is a very nitch market so that could explain the price hike. ]]>Mar 1st 2010 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/It's missing the OLED screens next to the custom buttons, like the Intuos4 has. It's missing multitouch (new software could leverage this to create more intuitive controls: using one hand for locking angles, placing guides, panning etc, while at the same time being able to use the pen.). And last but not least, compared to the design of the Intuos4 it is an abomination.

Hopefully they did take the time to fix the (lack of) accuracy around the corners. That was driving me mad last time I used a Cintiq.]]>Mar 1st 2010 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
This reminds me of the people who only use 5 tools in Photoshop so they think it should be cheaper.

Just because you're using a bulldozer to go to the grocery store doesn't mean that bulldozers should cost less. Maybe you should look into a car (or in this case, a non-professional tablet)]]>Mar 1st 2010 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/2. i think multi touch wouldnt work with this product anyways, it would be cool, but how could you draw when you have your palm resting on the screen and multitouch trying to differentiate your palm and the input you really want.]]>Mar 1st 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/
Most people look at it and think how cool it would be to use it for things, just like a Tablet PC...but the cost outweighs the fun of having it.]]>Mar 1st 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/I guess that depends on how much you're paid per drawing.

I get paid nothing per drawing, and bought the second largest intuos4 - definitely worth it.]]>Mar 1st 2010 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/01/wacoms-new-cintiq-21ux-pen-display-ups-the-sensitivity-skips-t/Mar 1st 2010 1:16PM