http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 3:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/What screen real estate?

Ah, you mean that tinker toy 2,2 inch blur of boring pixels that is easily outdone by any $1 KIRFtastic mp4 player?]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 4:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 4:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
oh, and guy's.. i'm not a fanboy, so please don't try filling my inbox with "troll" comments.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 4:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-not-a-smartphone/]]>Mar 2nd 2010 4:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/And yet, it won 'Engadget smartphone of the year' that year. Care to explain how?]]>Mar 2nd 2010 5:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
I'm also disappointed that you would pick the quick, snarky response over the real story here. It's got the same featureset and (screen dimensions and camera res aside) specifications as the N95, or the N82, or half of Nokia's smartphones from a year and a half ago. It's a handset with a proper OS and app support that's going to be handed out for free with large boxes of cereal. It's going to put a smartphone OS in hands which would otherwise never have used them. Three's probably going to be giving them away with Spotify subscriptions.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 5:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
So, what's Engadget's definition for a smart phone? What is C5 lacking?]]>Mar 2nd 2010 5:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
iPhone: No 3G. We know you know, but still, it hurts man.
This phone: 3G/HSDPA

iPhone: No over the air iTunes Store downloads or WiFi syncing to your host machine.
This phone: OTA downloads from any store with a web browser, bluetooth synching to host machine, wi-fi syncing to network stores.

No expandable memory.
This phone: Expandable memory

No removable battery.
This phone: Removable battery

No Exchange or Office support.
This phone: Office and Exchange support.

A good many of those are still true of the iPhone to this day, and yet it's a smartphone. On a feature-set, or even specification basis, this is as much a smartphone as any Nokia you've reported on in the past two years. It's actually more of a smartphone than the Nokias before then.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 5:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
It's funny to look back at Engadget comments about the iPhone from January 2007:

OMG no apps
OMG no 3G
OMG no GPS
OMG it's $600 !!!

They were also complaining about it being on Cingular. And for the next 2 years the hot-button topic would be no copy-n-paste.

Here's an example, Posted Jan 10th 2007 5:43AM: "This iPhone is very chic, but it's not what I'll be spending my money on. No third party apps and no GPS are complete deal breakers for me. And I'm not interested in Cingular."

My... how far we've come.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 5:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Beautifully put.
Now Ricker, care to "update" the "report"? ;)]]>Mar 2nd 2010 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
iPhone supports OTA downloads from the iTunes Store.

iPhone supports OTA push of Exchange email, calendar, contacts. It also natively supports Office DOC/XLS files within Mail for previewing attachments.

]]>Mar 2nd 2010 7:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/An e-mail program that lets you edit/view documents?!
And here was I thinking that I needed a Word processor for that ;)]]>Mar 2nd 2010 9:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
That's nice. However since it's Gartner, IDC and Canalsys who determine what constitutes a smartphone at least as far as market share and sales go then your opinion is irrelevant.

It's a smartphone, it's cheap and it has one metric shitload of features built in as well as access to apps like Shazam, You Tube viewer, Opera and Skyfire (which allows Flash) and it's going to sell millions. Deal with it.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/yes we've come far, for iphone OS now has More (not all) capabilities, but there is much more to want now, and better hardware/ software has come out...]]>Mar 2nd 2010 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Why? http://bit.ly/nokia-c5-latest-update]]>Mar 8th 2010 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
Its a smartphone. It has wifi. It has email, apps like shazaam, fring, It can multi-task which the iphone can't. It has native flickr integration. A pretty good web browser if you install Opera mini.

It is a smart phone. Albeit an aging one, but a smartphone nonetheless. I don't get why you Americans have a bitterness towards Nokia. You don't even count Symbian, which is the most used smartphone OS, in your smartphone graphs and all.

Touchscreen does not equal smartphone

/end rant]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 3:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
True.

I would add multitasking to the smartphone definition way before touchscreen.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 3:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/'Pretending to be smartphone'??
The basic task a smartphone should do is multitask which symbian has been doing since 7650(circa 2002?) Don't get why Symbian is being neglected in the US :(]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 3:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/It's not just americans that are tireing of the dreadful and ancient Symbian OS.
I'm from the EU and I still use my N95 as my daily phone.

But seriously, that phone is 3+ years old. In gadget years that can be multiplied by 7 to get human years, just like with dog years. =)

To realease a "new" phone today, with a 0.4 inch SMALLER screen, completely devoid of even a resistive touchscreen.

And BTW multitasking my grandmother, with 20MB free RAM after boot up there really is only room for two or three apps at the time, and crashing is a daily occurance. It just taught me NOT to multitask on symbian 3rd.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 3:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Interesting, that is also about the same time Symbian OS stopped evolving too right?

*drum hit*]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Not to mention, one rather popular fruit-flavoured smartphone that is incapable of such a feat.

The definition has to be connected in some way to the platform having a well-defined SDK and supporting installable apps.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
Plus the price won't be $183 if ever released in the US. ]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
It allows skype calls over 3G way before the iphone could. Has a barcode reader. Has fring, skype, cellular modem, infra red remote. And multi tasks.

It does everything the iphone can. All it doesn't share is a touchscreen and accelerometer and you say the iphone is a smarter os? Symbian is still a better OS than iphone. Just cause its hip, doesn't mean the rest is shit.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
Before that, S60v3 was praised as a great SMARTPHONE OS, before touch screens were widely spread. So, why not take a step back, keep creating value, maintain a mind share and then come back with the revamped OS that should have been since the start?

I think all the Ovi strategy is a smart move, with messaging, maps, and online sync. Now carriers have Blackberry mail AND Nokia Messaging data plans. How is that not a great move to maintain mind share?

Nokia has been much more than just OS, unlike android, that is JUST about the OS. It has great tech support, for example. Apple on the other hand has created an ecosystem that sucks you right into it and make YOU accomodate to their beat. Nokia is trying to play along the likes of Balckberry or the glory days of WinMo, but with today's reality.

And they're doing it on the open and on the fly, they won't have theatrical releases like those that apple can afford. Don't get me wrong, it'd be great to be able to work behind the courtains, but they're already out there, so they have to do it without any privacy.

I'm becoming a Nokia fanboy, I know, it's just that i like to support underdogs (of some kind) that really sweat it to succeed.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
I see lifehacker having smartphone OS comparisons, where they have web os, android, but don't consider Symbian, which is the most widely used OS. They have small market shared like webOS, but nokias Maemo and Meego isn't cdonsidered.

I get Maemo is the underdog, but Symbian is the champ, yet it isn't even considered and mocked for no reason]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
Definition doesn't need to be corrected as long as it's "Smartphone is a device which you can install *native* applications and multitask them", as it really is.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Nokia? Underdog?

They're the big non-perceptual stagnant elephant of an entity if any, refusing to hear their customers pleads and listen to the markets signal. Completely failing to innovate anything groundbreaking since 2007 with the N95. If they're considered underdog today, they put themselves there.

"The N97 will be a flasgship success" - talk about delusion.
Lets take 3 years old hardware, stick it in a 10 year old OS with lipstick on and see it hurl over itself all day.

I say, you can put lipstick on a symbian, but its still symbian.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 3:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Symbian 60 is a great little OS, and dose it's duties well. All in all, I really don't understand why Nokia isn't stepping forward rather than putting and older OS on a new phone. It has the means...]]>Mar 2nd 2010 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
"All in all, I really don't understand why Nokia isn't stepping forward rather than putting and older OS on a new phone. It has the means..."

S60 doesn't have any non-touch UI except v3 and Symbian^3 isn't ready yet.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 4:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
**blares two large cymbals together**
Wake up! It's 2010! The world has moved on!

Mention Fring and skype again and I'll just say 20MB RAM every post I make in this discussion just because " I ar in ur thread maekin mah point."]]>Mar 2nd 2010 4:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 4:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
All the aging players had a momentum since the early 2000's really hard to stop. It was not an issue of "listening" to their customers, because their customers didn't even know what the next big thing was going to be like. Enter iphone, changing the pace, with no weight on it's shoulders, coming up with something not even the consumers saw coming. Nokia, Moto, SE, WinMo, all were too monstrous to put both feet on the brakes. Only google could sniff it miles away and hop along.

Where's Moto now? hopping on the Android wagon, Where's Palm? trying to push a great OS with no muscle left from the old days, Where's SE now? still looking where to turn, cause their brand strategy and pride don't allow them to adopt Android (actually they're waiting for Symbian^3 like a summer rain). The only "giant" really moving and changing course is Nokia. But they are so heavy, that changing course is a monstrous task on its own.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 4:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Omg, what a load of hogwash.
I have had symbian since my 3210. That was back in 1999.
You were 7 years old back then. Don't preach to me about experience in regards to tech.

I am squarely judging them by their performance since then, and since N95, nothing innovative has left the doors of Nokia. I still use it just because I have to. And believe me.... it's a daily pain! That is my experience.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 4:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/In the meanwhile they just offer what they have at an affodable price.
Remember that n96 had more or less same specs and OS and it was a flagship device (500 euros). Now you can get have the same in the 180 euro range (be sure in one month will be 150 euros).]]>Mar 2nd 2010 4:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
Symbian certainly is a smartphone OS but it can be a real pain to use it. It's also a pretty unfun OS to use IMHO. Certainly I don't think you pull a Nokia out and have people want to have a play on the thing.

Still, good to see them put it on cheaper devices and we can only hope they get the entire ecosystem cleaned up soon for future releases.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 4:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/Mar 2nd 2010 4:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
My even older N82 has 94 MB free RAM @ startup and I don't remember any low memory errors since I bought it 26 months ago.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 5:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/I'm just pointing out that multi-tasking is not the acid test.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 5:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
How many modern smartphone OSes out there that can not multi-task, so "multi-tasking is not the acid test" for smartphone OSes? Oh come on, excluding multi-tasking from smartphone definition is only an excuse for the fruit phone!]]>Mar 2nd 2010 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
Nokias lower end feature phones don't have symbian. Never did. What we do see, though, is that they're pushing lower end smartphones like this firmly into cheap-ish phone category. Because €135 for a phone puts it squarely into mid-low end phone category.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 6:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/nokia-c5-arrives-with-s60-3rd-edition-os-pretending-to-be-a-sma/
I'm not trying to make excuses for the iPhone but, lets be honest, it's far more a smartphone than a lot of other handsets that do support multi-tasking.
The afore-mentioned SE 'dumb-phones' running on the A200 platform, as well as the likes of the Samsung Jet and other devices running the same OS (I believe it's called NucleOS) or any of LG's 'S-Class' feature-phones. They all multi-task but none of them are smartphones.]]>Mar 2nd 2010 6:18AM