http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/The XDA-devs always made WinMo look and feel more "open" than Android. Just wish they'd change that name, even HTC-devs would have been more correct]]>Mar 4th 2010 10:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
I still must have it.]]>Mar 4th 2010 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Assuming a phone manufacturer is willing to make a WinMo 6 phone.
It's nice in theory, but when contracts end after 2 years people will want to upgrade their handset and there will be very few options.]]>Mar 4th 2010 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
This is really the 'new' Microsoft i.e. Office 7 / Windows 7 / Zune HD / XBox Live coming out. And hopefully it will change the company from within. You paying attention IE team ?!]]>Mar 4th 2010 9:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
But it's not the point. WinPho7 apps are going to be completely unique. Very different UI styles and approaches.]]>Mar 4th 2010 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
With a clean break, there is a clear demand for apps.

I suggest you take up Silverlight and XNA. I've already ordered some books for this purpose.]]>Mar 4th 2010 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 9:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
theres losts of simularities between Smartphones and media player normally with the later only missing phone calls, text, mms etc

Zune > Windows Phone 7
iPod Touch > iPhone
Archos > Archos phone]]>Mar 4th 2010 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 9:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
Jesus you twit, if there is a clean break then someone will have to replace those apps. Now go enjoy your damn iphone and leave us alone.]]>Mar 4th 2010 10:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 5th 2010 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 5th 2010 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
that'd be epicly shweeet!!!


Or as jeremy clarkson would say:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQJz04kTPJ0]]>Mar 4th 2010 8:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
i really hope so!]]>Mar 4th 2010 10:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
Considering you get ZuneHD apps through the Zune Marketplace and WP7S will be doing all of its syncing through the Zune Marketplace....I'd say that's a yes.]]>Mar 4th 2010 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 10:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 5th 2010 6:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
The RAM issue isn't much of one since you don't have to handle both the front end and media duties as well as phone tasks. It won't (shouldn't) require as much RAM or processing power as the phone does.

The fact that its built on an old kernel isn't that big an issue either. That can be solved with a software update. And I would guess the lack of APIs could as well.

The low screen res is an issue, but even that can be overcome with the use of scaling. IIRC, they are the same aspect ratio.

What I'm thinking will happen though is MS will drop a new Zune right around the time W7PS phones hit the market. Apple drops an updated iPod ever year, why shouldn't Microsoft do the same?]]>Mar 5th 2010 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564591 according to this, the zune hd runs on ce7, so yea it's more likely than you think]]>Mar 5th 2010 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
Perhaps they can make a new version of the HD2 that will be compatible and it'll be a launch device. Just tell me something! I guess I will wait until MIX10.]]>Mar 4th 2010 8:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/hellooooooooooooo????
didnt think so]]>Mar 4th 2010 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
Why would developers want to work with Windows Classic. It's not like there are millions of those phones out there or anything.]]>Mar 4th 2010 8:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
can we start calling it WinPho7 all the time? not as smooth sounding as winmo, but good good is it better than "windows phone 7 series".]]>Mar 4th 2010 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 5th 2010 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
cant we just go with 7series and call it a day]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 5th 2010 2:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
No backwards comparability, so another target audince lef in the dark.

What audince is MS actually tageting? Zune sure was a smash hit, right?

Xbox Live intagration? I hear all about it, but anyone care to explain to me what that actually means. Chat with people on xbl? Let you join voice conversations? Only two things I can see remotley cool. ]]>Mar 4th 2010 8:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
A audience which can 'spell' correctly...sorry i had too.

Anyway, are you one those types of people, who thinks BC is important? MS needs to stop legacy support, and the sooner the better.

Honestly, Windows would be so much better, if MS decided to make all the hardware companies use a universal standard, and remove legacy, the current hardware can emulate very effectively.

Why doesn't MS, build a protype MB, Processor etc, and show what can be done if they removed legacy, and also show what their software can really do.

Mac OS-X works great, because they use custom, spec hardware, the otherwords intel, Nvidia have to design their hardware around what Apple's specs, but now Apple has gone down the legacy route with using intel etc.]]>Mar 4th 2010 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
But I 110% support them on this new path of theirs. Yes, there are gaps in their strategy. Yes, it isn't yet as successful as their competitors. But at least they are taking risks and trying to offer something unique to their marketplace. And it is unquestionable that MS now has a distinctive 'consumer' style like Apple does.

Will it work. Who knows. But at least they aren't boring any more. ]]>Mar 4th 2010 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
Anyways, this isn't about hardware. This is about the lack of software emulation. ]]>Mar 4th 2010 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
Backwards compatibility would be kinda silly. MS aims to have a fresh new start with WP7S. Having old apps work on such a whole different level of GUI would seem very odd. Anyway, I think most apps that Windows Mobile users have are meant to supplement the missing or not so good apps and features in the the OS. I'm talking about utility apps, skins, and that other stuff. I think WP7S pretty much makes most of that unnecessary.

I think MS is trying to appeal to everyone, though I think people most familiar with Microsoft's offerings will be the first to get on board, and maybe other people who find it more compelling than Apple's solutions or other phones. Zune HD might not be a success, but I think that has more to factor with the really low amount of advertising, down economy, and how well Apple has mindshare control in the US market.

About Xbox Live, someone on their team posted a blog entry asking what users might expect with Xbox Live, so maybe you should add some input: http://www.ozymandias.com/your-thoughts-on-xbox-live-and-windows-phone]]>Mar 4th 2010 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/uh.... the CEO OF MICROSOFT, stood and said: "WP7S will not have Flash out of the gate."

Which means that, regardless of all the advances in hardware (Tegra 2, Scorpion...etc), come Christmas 2010, the WP7S phone ur carrying will NOT have Flash support. Even if it has 3 Tegra 2's and a Scorpion in it.]]>Mar 4th 2010 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/
Unless you have a different meaning as to what "out of the gate" could mean, I think Flash support isn't completely out of the question. ]]>Mar 4th 2010 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 10:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/microsoft-talks-windows-phone-7-series-development-ahead-of-gdc/Mar 4th 2010 8:51PM