http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/ Engadget Comments for NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 leaks out with Fermi on board http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
I mean that literally and figuratively.]]>Mar 4th 2010 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
Rumour has it these will have a 300W TDP. I mean, man, that's 3 times the TDP of my processor!]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
300 W ? That's crazy? seems to be significantly less effecient than ATi.. but as long as it cranks out the same bench scores and FPS, will most gamers care or even think about it?]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Hmm... Gamers have to be aware of PSU requirements these days... so... I guess quite a few will care.]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/people buy 800w power supplies or more as a standard now-a-days... im sure if you are shelling out the cash to buy one of these things a power supply is the least of your worries.]]>Mar 4th 2010 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/It has a one 6-pin and one 8-pin PCIe power connector. This means that the max power usage is somewhere between 225W and 300W.]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
It is not and that card looks beautiful. I mean my god I love it when they strip it down like that. Too bad they put those black bars on it. They always cover the best parts]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
The 200 series wasn't a rebrand either for the most part (some models here and there, mostly mobile, were G9x-based). It was a brand new chip...the GT200.]]>Mar 4th 2010 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
It has been said a million times already, the person who was loaned the card is hiding identifying details by using the blackouts. Nvidia could trace the card by serial number or other method and the person would get it trouble for violating the NDA.
]]>Mar 4th 2010 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 5th 2010 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/They're traceable. So nVidia would be able to find out who leaked the images and broke the NDA.]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
Is that a mini-DP port next to the two DVI ports? I was under the impression that the card can only manage two outputs total; does using the DP connector prevent you from using one of the DVI ports?]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/According to the retail box pictures -- http://forums.vr-zone.com/news-around-the-web/570761-gigabyte-gtx-480-gtx-470-retail-boxes.html -- it's a mini-hdmi port.]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/810/fakedd.png

You sure those are genuine?]]>Mar 4th 2010 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
It would probably disable the 2nd DVI port...pretty normal setup.]]>Mar 4th 2010 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
Yup, sounds about right. Though, I have to say... I'm really not sure why you would buy the high-end Fermi for a home theater setup, so I'm a little surprised it's not DP.]]>Mar 4th 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
There are a decent number of 22" monitors with HDMI these days.]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
I'm guessing poor overclocks, very high power usage and about $20-30 more than they planned based on the cooler.]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_285_for_mac_us.html

Although I've heard it has shit drivers.]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/They have the 4870 (for $350, euch). I love mine in my hand built Windows PC. Yeah though, they really need to catch up and drop the prices.]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
Isn't part of the reason for the exorbitant prices is the licensing fee they have to pay to Apple?

]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
A good gaming machine can do all the above, not just gaming. As much as Apple would like you to believe there are plenty of photogs that don't use Macs.]]>Mar 4th 2010 10:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
Economies of scale I believe. When you are making 100,000 of something it is cheaper than making 10,000 of the same thing. They have to pay programmers to write the Mac specific Bios.]]>Mar 4th 2010 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
Those rumors sounded weird to me though... seems like more news outlets would have picked up on it had it been the case.

I definitely wouldn't mind picking up one of these cards though once BFG or EVGA get their versions out!]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Nvidias-Fermi-Leistung-der-GeForce-GTX-470-enthuellt-946411.html]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
Some results:

3DMark Vantage (X-Mode):
Radeon HD 5870 - 8730 points
GTX 470 - 7511 points
Radeon HD 5850 - 6430 points
GeForce GTX 285 - 6002 points

Performance mode (I presume that's part of 3DMark vantage too):
Radeon HD 5870 - 17303
GTX 470 - 17156
Radeon HD 5850 - 14300

Unigine Benchmarks, 4xAA:
GeForce GTX 470 - 29 fps
Radeon HD 5870 - 27 fps
Radeon HD 5850 - 22 fps

Unigine Benchmarks, 8xAA:
Radeon HD 5870 - 23 fps
GeForce GTX 470 - 20 fps
Radeon HD 5850 - 19 fps
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still good information, probably info i wouldnt have found lol, and besides this is the lesser one, which means the 480 is only gonna get better..]]>Mar 4th 2010 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
what is your point the high performance ATi cards are expensive too.]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/I doubt anyone actually needs this for gaming. Folks who have the 8800 GTX still can run everything recent with the settings up.]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
(GTX480 ~ 3880 GFLOPs vs. Reality Synthesizers ~130 GFLOPs)]]>Mar 4th 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/Mar 4th 2010 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/04/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-leaks-out-with-fermi-on-board/
I don't regret that, but I do wish the price comparison for a current-gen console vs a decent gaming PC was at least close. A 2x-2.5x price premium for a gaming PC is reasonable because PC gaming is a better experience (IMO).

But the 5x-8x premium for a mid-level PC gaming rig (all-in cost with case, cpu, mobo, RAM, Win7, etc) vs a top console is ridiculous.

The PC gaming experience vs console gaming experience is better, but is it really 5x-8x better? [Estimate based on $300 for a new PS3 vs $1500 to $2400 for a new mid-level gaming PC.]

The price/performance ratio for consoles has improved with every new console generation. For gaming PCs, the ratio stays the same or gets worse.]]>Mar 4th 2010 2:58PM