http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/ Engadget Comments for Panasonic leaks own G2 and G10 Micro Four Thirds cams in macro fashion http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/Mar 5th 2010 3:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/Mar 5th 2010 3:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
As for ugly... your consideration mate.]]>Mar 5th 2010 4:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/Mar 5th 2010 4:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/totally agree,
the point of m4/3 is to as it states: "micronize" the 4/3 system. The G1/2/10, GH1 are really fugly IMO. I wouldn't doubt the image quality from these cameras but i just don't see a point for it to exist when u can get an entry level DSLR with better quality, similar in size and most importantly, a price tag that won't break your piggy bank!]]>Mar 5th 2010 4:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/is it small? these dslrs are all huge and have more image quality! WHY cant they make them small like the other non sdlr cameras? i dont understand]]>Mar 5th 2010 5:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/The Canon EOS T2i or 650D is an entry level DSLR size only slightly bigger than the G1/GH1 but definitely have higher image quality than all m4/3 camera. The reason DSLR can't be made any smaller is because the system must include a prism inside for image reflection whereas the m4/3 forgets about it. I'm not sure if the prism have anything to do with image quality though but i know the DSLRs definitely have bigger CMOS than m4/3s. ]]>Mar 5th 2010 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/i guess you can buy dp1 or dp2 series from sigma]]>Mar 5th 2010 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/Mar 5th 2010 8:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
I'm sorry but you clearly don't know what you're talking about (not trying to offend you here, just being honest).

Proper DSLRs are large for meany reasons:

They usually have much larger sensors (there are some exceptions). This allows for a lower pixel density, shallower depth of field, greater low light performance.

They have proper viewfinders (hence the pentaprism or pentamirror, these can't be made much smaller without impacting on the quality of the viewfinder).

Ergonomics, I don't want to hold some fiddly little thing at arms length. It introduces camera shake and results in poorer images.

Basically, DSLRs clearly aren't for you. Have a look at the Canon s90 :)]]>Mar 5th 2010 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
Ugh, many* reasons.

Why can we still not edit out posts Engadget? ]]>Mar 5th 2010 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/Its all about the sensor. The prism is used only to project the image to the optical viewfinder and hence why these cameras dont have one because they use and electronic view finder.

And its true, DSLR image quality will always be better than M4/3 due to the sensor size. ]]>Mar 5th 2010 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/Mar 5th 2010 3:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/I'm really into filmmaking so I would love to try out either the 7D or the T2i. But if I was getting a camera just for the sake of photography, then the GF1 would be at the top of my list. A GF2 that somehow integrates an EVF along with a stronger flash and a smaller body (though that might be asking too much) would totally have me consider taking a huge chunk out of my bank account.]]>Mar 5th 2010 4:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
I'm a beginner and my next camera will be my first. I think SLRs are too big to lug around every day (my friends have D40, D80, 5D, etc), so I want a camera that I can carry around without too much hassle. That being said I would like something more powerful than a point-n-shoot. Though an LX4 might be tempting]]>Mar 5th 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/Mar 5th 2010 4:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/Mar 5th 2010 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/no point carrying a G1/2/10 if it's only that much smaller than a standard DSLR.
I think the new rebel series from Canon is around the same size and can shoot 1080P videos. Plus those lens are not as expensive as the M4/3 lens.]]>Mar 5th 2010 4:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
Articulating LCD screen. End of story.]]>Mar 5th 2010 4:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/FYI, Nikon D5000 also have articulating LCD,
does that make it a winner? If u're one serious photographer, a small mirror gets the job if shooting in very low angle.

Conclusion: Articulating LCD vs Video quality
Video quality hands down!! End of story.]]>Mar 5th 2010 4:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/If it's a choice between 1080p or a twisty screen, I'll take the latter thanks.]]>Mar 5th 2010 5:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/Mar 5th 2010 7:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
Actually, the GH1 is quite a lot smaller than similarly specced DSLRs. Also, not forgetting that the 14-140 kit lens you get with the GH1 is significantly smaller than the equivalent for an APS-C DSLR.

Having said that, I'm not quite sure where the big differences are between the G2 and G10 are. They seem to consist of the GF1 internals, in a GH1-alike body, with the G1's kit lens.

Personally, I'd get the GH1 or GF1 with pancake rather than either of these. Ho hum, YMMV.]]>Mar 5th 2010 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
m4/3 use contrast detect too. Though (maybe not in the case of the EP1) it's very much faster and better optimised than the CD systems in DSLRs with live view.]]>Mar 5th 2010 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
I wish the GF1 had a stereo mic or perhaps an mic jack... oh well.]]>Mar 5th 2010 4:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/congrats on ur handsome purchase, i can assure u to not disappoint at all. I hope u got the pancake lens instead of the zoom lens because it starts vignetting even at 14mm. Welcome to the club.]]>Mar 5th 2010 4:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
Yeah I realized that at the last moment to get the kit with the 20mm lens. It definitely keeps it compact and legit]]>Mar 5th 2010 5:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/Mar 5th 2010 4:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
Sadly, highly likely I would have to wait for the new Oly's offering. Cross of E-P2 and E-PL1 would be close to what I want. Only what's Oly's missing is a better pancake.]]>Mar 5th 2010 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
Plus the epl1 has in body IS which I think panasonic will stick with the in lens image stabilization making it more expensive. I like the 60fps avchd lite on the panasonic, but not a deal breaker. Plus I got a panasonic zs3 that does that already.]]>Mar 5th 2010 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
if you are going to need a carry bag or whatever, why not just buy an slr for better IQ and lens/accessory option.]]>Mar 5th 2010 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
I agree. The lens is good, but it needs to be collapsible. I already have a full frame DSLR to take really good pictures, but if I am traveling, I'm not always going to want to carry around 25 lbs of camera gear, lens, and a tripod.]]>Mar 5th 2010 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
But still no remorse, love the camera. Coming from a 35mm background, I was really hesitant to go DSLR, much less a mirrorless design.

But I love the camera, and the quality. Not big on the software the give you with it though, what ever comes with your PC when you buy it is better than what they give you, not even worth loading up.

Keep in mind when you are quoting better or not quality people, the devil is in the details!

What lens did you use?
What was your A setting, what was your C setting? Or did you just go with iA??
What resolution?
Jpeg VS Raw file?
What software did you use to edit?
Is your computer monitor calibrated to true color, what is it's resolution?
What photo printer did you use?
etc, etc...

In a way, 35mm was much simpler!]]>Mar 5th 2010 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/
Either way, like the the smaller micro 4/3rds format. Great quality, small package. You dont feel like you are pulling out a hubble telescope for your kids birthday!]]>Mar 5th 2010 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/panasonic-leaks-own-g2-and-g10-micro-four-thirds-cams-in-macro-f/Exactly what I'm trying to say, great quality in a small package! But don't u think this camera kind of go against the idea? m4/3 systems suppose to miniaturize the 4/3 system and make it more portable. Not that this camera's not portable, but at least u can't pocket it without feeling the weight. I just don't find this design to justify the original idea of the m4/3 system. Unless they're putting in a DSLR class sensor into the body, then that's another story.]]>Mar 5th 2010 11:02AM