http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/ Engadget Comments for Steve Ballmer emphasizes importance of the cloud, Google pretty much does likewise http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
On the other hand google is planning to go an all out cloud for their devices, starting with their chrome netbook: http://bit.ly/google-chrome-netbook-rumor-overview
]]>Mar 5th 2010 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Yeah, I know, if you have nothing to hide...]]>Mar 5th 2010 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
I think Google's FTTH is even more than just a 1 Gbps line... it will likely be unlimited bandwidth, which is, as you mentioned, the second area where most ISPs are little children.]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/This has to be one of the greatest points I have ever read on Engadget man.
I paid for my internet at a certain speed yet I can't always get those speeds and sometimes it's not even working.
Modem mysteriously goes off and needs a call to Comcast customer service to fix (I really needed to wait 30 mins listening to crappy music only for you to ask me if I tried switching it off and on?). Yet I want my computing experience to depend on my internet connection?

And yet people are saying desktops will be dead in 3 years? Ha!
Be honest with yourselves, how many of you guys are fully confident in loading all your precious pics, movies, resumes and music into the cloud out there and knowing it's secure only because someone told you it is and gave you a guarantee.

I'm sorry Google CEO but cloud computing as a standard has a ways to go.

I see this more as an enterprise type thing where different offices can view and edit the same documents without having to send massive attachments and have the resources to keep them secure online.

But for personal use, I don't really think so IMO.]]>Mar 5th 2010 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
'The cloud' is not the problem as this is a great idea in theory. The problem, as I see it is, who OWNS the cloud??? You mention this as a enterprise solution when, in fact, I see it as just the oposite. NO WAY an enterpirse (small or large) will be willing to stick all their important (e.g.) Outlook contacts, etc. on Google's or Microsoft's cloud. NO WAY, BABY !!!

Which brings me to Droid..... I don't get it AT ALL !!?? Open architecture? Unless you're a developer and want to shove more worthless content down my throat, WHO CARES !! As I understand it, I can sync with Outlook (a MUST) but all that info is sitting on some Google cloud? ARE YOU KIDDING !!?? That ain't happening. Droid's OK for my son in college with a devise full of music, video and phone numbers for hot girls but, sorry, I have work to do, and data to protect !!

Someone tell me I’m wrong. Attach links to the contrary. I would LOVE to be a buyer of the HD2 and the Dell Mini 5 but NOT with Android and Google’s ‘cloud’!!!!]]>Mar 5th 2010 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Cloud is the internet. Kind of a simple concept.]]>Mar 5th 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
The cloud is not the internet. The cloud is a concept that divorces data and applications from physical machines. So if I, as a developer, develop a cloud application, I build it on top of a cloud computing framework like Microsoft's Azure. The true distinction comes when you need to scale your application up. In the standard client/server internet model, you need to buy more servers and install the application on them. In a cloud framework, you pay by bandwidth usage, so if 15 people are hitting your application, it works fine and if 30,000 people are hitting it, it still works fine because the cloud provider allocates resources to the program dynamically.

I could be a bit off on the technical details because I've never written a cloud application myself, but that's the general idea.]]>Mar 5th 2010 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
That may be a compelling reason to develop for the cloud.

As a consumer/client, however, I'm still waiting for a good reason to completely rely on the cloud for my day-to-day needs. 'Sounds like a solution in search of a problem.
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*Yes, I'm just kidding.]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/No wait, I'm a Cloud]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
also many claims about the cloud are rather vaporous...]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
Tifa computing would just be porn.]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Both of these comments made my day. Highlarious.]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.ted.com/talks/gary_flake_is_pivot_a_turning_point_for_web_exploration.html

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Is really a good idea to store something on microsoft servers considering they can turn them off when they want]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
Considering they are turning off Xbox (original version) servers off next month, and the danger servers that went down last year

and they turned of windows player servers drm servers a few years back

Is it really a good idea to store something on microsoft servers considering they can turn them off when they want ?! and loose all your data instantly]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
I dont think you can use xbox live as a reason. There not turning it off, there just stopping it for a product thats 10 years old. They have also given a couple of months notice.

Now the clanger on the danger, that is a reason! lets hope they learnt from it!]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
The main protagonist in Final Fantasy VII.]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Lol. I have over 2 Tb of media on my home server, and growing. They're really going to let me put all that stuff in "the cloud", not charge me an arm and a leg for it, and be able to access it whenever and wherever? Surrrre they will.

They simply want us to give up ownership of our content, and have to pay them every time we access something, whether it be a document, mp3, photo, movie, etc.

On top of that, I don't trust them to keep it backed up. Look at that T-Mobile/MS fiasco. No thanks. I haven't lost a file in over 15 years.


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As I said earlier, this is exactly why I don't understand the interst in Android ???? Why do I want to put my important contacts, etc. on Google's cloud???? Even If I trusted them (which I absolutely don't), why would that be a prudent thing to do?????]]>Mar 5th 2010 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
I totally agree that it's not something I would do, but i see value in it for less tech-savvy people. Those that just want a computer to work would love this. They would never have to be concerned with backup, hardware failure, security. Can even connect to it with your TV... wouldn't even need a 'traditional computer' anymore unless you WANT one.]]>Mar 5th 2010 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
I guess that's the point of my confusion. Droid isn't going on just less tech-savvy phones. We're talking about the Dell Mini 5 and the HD2. Why, on God's green earth would HTC and DELL put Droid on these highend phones? I'm sure someone gets all this, just not me.]]>Mar 5th 2010 11:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
I really don't care for the idea of these content providers holding all the cards. I like to be the one in control.]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
Remember network computers?
Thin Clients?

Moving apps from the corporate desktop to the server room didn't work, so now they're trying to get home users/smartphone people to do it.

I just don't see it.]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
I see your point. I recommend google-apps e-mail all the time; however my clients preferred way to access it is by using Outlook on their "desktops".
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I really am starting to think someone slipped something in the water supply up there in Redmond. They are on a roll this year.]]>Mar 5th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
I'm seeing a nice compromise between the two. For the stuff in the home, your personal programs, media, information, etc would still be kept locally either on a desktop or just move it all to a home server and use that as a local cloud of sorts.
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If it's used to compliment what we already have, I won't mind. Some people might find it useful. But I'll be god damned if I'm going to be forced into it.]]>Mar 5th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
Let remember 2002, give credit where credits due, when we all talked about that the network WAS the computer (aka cloud?). I guess you can say its time has come?]]>Mar 5th 2010 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 1:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
Sony, Verizon, T-mobile, Blackberry all know this very well that one small glitch can take out ALL your customers and then what?

Why do we keep flip flopping on computer usage, first came unix, then single computers, now they want us to go back to a single point of failure system again?

Sure the cloud is not just one computer, but I do not want to be connected to the cloud to function.

What are we the borg? are we being assimilated ?

yikes....]]>Mar 5th 2010 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/
I see this as a good thing as long as a few things are true.
1) totally not client dependent. I can connect to the same space from my netbook/desktop/mobile device.

2) They undertake the burden of security, this is really the main thing i'm worried about. I would hope there would be healthy competition in this market and security would be a selling point for each company.

3) The company or the law has no access to the data without a warrant. I don't want it to be considered 'not my property' just because its not at my house.

It could be good for lots of people, because things like security, backup, and hardware failures would be handled by the people who run the cloud. The dumb terminal would require very little hardware, and would probably be cheap enough to just throw in with the subscription charge. Only thing the customer would be responsible for is the display, which could be any device the customer chooses.

Still dont think everyone will dig this model though, especially as the 'tech generation' gets older and older, and the people that don't know anything about computers keep dying. I know i wouldnt buy into it, but i've discussed this with less techie friends and its something they would be interested in.]]>Mar 5th 2010 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/steve-ballmer-emphasizes-importance-of-the-cloud-google-pretty/Mar 5th 2010 3:30PM